150, 240, 900 !?
?!What!? are you guys addicted to? Including PINs for bank-cards (not
used online) I can't estimate over a dozen or two myself. OK maybe
hundreds over decades, but ... current? Admittedly, I have probably
cranked through a similar number of "throwaways" where I've signed up
for something (because that is the only way to sample/test) and then let
the login die or go fallow (and my hashword) with it. But hundreds?
Really? I'm worried about you guys! They have groups and 12 step
programs for things like this!
As for mnemonics or mental-hash-generators (hashwords?)... my decades of
high security environments where writing my password down anywhere
(including or especially electronically) or sharing it with anyone (e.g.
speaking it aloud) was a felony or low treason or something, I just
can't stand to see a password in clear text... it makes me cringe...
so a whole spreadsheet of my family jewels... I just couldn't...
I only wish there were a 2-factor system for the masses that isn't
spoofable (the ones that use your Mac address of your device are better
than nothing but not unspoofable by far).
- Steve
~240 accounts stored in keepass.
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On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Owen Densmore <o...@backspaces.net
<mailto:o...@backspaces.net>> wrote:
Just out of curiosity, how many of us have a reasonable idea of
the number of logins we have? At a guess, I'd say I have over 200
simply because over the last year I have logged 150+ in 1Password.
One good source, btw, is the monthly mail-list reminders.
-- Owen
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Joseph Spinden <j...@qri.us
<mailto:j...@qri.us>> wrote:
I certainly do not want to rely on mnemonics, and I find it
(almost) astonishing that people would devote time to
developing a mnemonic method. I long ago came up with a
simple two-step device to keep track of my 100's of passwords:
It is called a spreadsheet. All you need to remember is the
password to get into the spreadsheet. This is my "key chain".
My method only works on a device where I can access my
spreadsheet, but that is not an issue for me. I think this
could be easily adapted to other devices, were I so motivated.
Joe
On 12/4/13, 12:09 PM, Gary Schiltz wrote:
In my as yet brief use of LastPass, it is very good on my
Mac (and probably equally good on Windows). I haven't yet
even tried it on my iPad or iPhone, but the problem there
is that mobile Safari doesn't support plugins, so the
kinds of content rewriting that the plugins must do to
work seamlessly with the browser can't be implemented. I
don't know if this is just a problem with Safari, but it
seems to be a restriction with iOS generally, being a
highly restricted ecosystem. I suppose Android would be
less restrictive, although I don't have any experience
with it.
Gary
On Dec 4, 2013, at 1:56 PM, Owen Densmore
<o...@backspaces.net <mailto:o...@backspaces.net>> wrote:
Agreed. And do you know one of the biggest problems?
Phones!
Yes, 1Password and others run on phones, but mainly
for browser logins.
Then cam "apps". Browser's could't keep up with the
demands of phone apps so the devs had to go to
"native" apps, or more general PhoneGap type apps.
Yes iP can work with them but you have to cut/paste
to use them which is a total pain in the rear.
Possibly apple's new phones with thumb recognition
will simplify things .. you'll have a "key chain" in
the sky. But it'll be broken by the bad guys too, I
guess. And depends on the apple ecology which I find
too incomplete compared with google.
-- Owen
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Gary Schiltz
<g...@naturesvisualarts.com
<mailto:g...@naturesvisualarts.com>> wrote:
More to the point, our brains are too small and our
years too few to fill with mindless drivel. Better to
use them writing poetry, creating a better world, or
even reading and writing FRIAM posts :-)
On Dec 4, 2013, at 1:45 PM, Owen Densmore
<o...@backspaces.net <mailto:o...@backspaces.net>> wrote:
My brain is too small.
-- Owen
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