On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Steve Smith <sasm...@swcp.com> wrote:

>  150, 240, 900 !?
>
> ?!What!?  are you guys addicted to?   Including PINs for bank-cards (not
> used online) I can't estimate over a dozen or two myself.
>

Exactly!  But you do have > 100 and you know it!  How many on-line gifts?
 How many forums, even for trivial use? How many mail lists? How many bank,
credit card, paypal logins?  Amazon?  Google? Moocs? Travel related?
Airlines? NetFlix/Hulu/iTunes? Gmail? Dropbox? GitHub? Clothing? Shopping
in general? NYTimes and other news sources? LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter,
G+, ...

I could go on but dozens.  I seriously, Seriously doubt it.


> OK maybe hundreds over decades, but ... current?
>

Not so fast, mister!  They're still there and very hackable.


> Admittedly, I have probably cranked through a similar number of
> "throwaways" where I've signed up for something (because that is the only
> way to sample/test) and then let the login die or go fallow (and my
> hashword) with it.    But hundreds?  Really?  I'm worried about you guys!
> They have groups and 12 step programs for things like this!
>

Login die?  You sure?  And indeed, how many folks can "delete" an account?
 Most don't have an obvious way do do so.


> As for mnemonics or mental-hash-generators (hashwords?)... my decades of
> high security environments where writing my password down anywhere
> (including or especially electronically) or sharing it with anyone (e.g.
> speaking it aloud) was a felony or low treason or something, I just can't
> stand to see a password in clear text... it makes me cringe...   so a whole
> spreadsheet of my family jewels... I just couldn't...
>
> I only wish there were a 2-factor system for the masses that isn't
> spoofable (the ones that use your Mac address of your device are better
> than nothing but not unspoofable by far).
>
> - Steve
>

I am so worried about you guy who don't know just how many logins you have!
 :)

   -- Owen
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