I see steves side of things. I have I think 3 user names I might use. One
password I vary. The one I'm most concerned about is the seemingly low
grade of  security Del Norte.


On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Owen Densmore <o...@backspaces.net> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Steve Smith <sasm...@swcp.com> wrote:
>
>>  150, 240, 900 !?
>>
>> ?!What!?  are you guys addicted to?   Including PINs for bank-cards (not
>> used online) I can't estimate over a dozen or two myself.
>>
>
> Exactly!  But you do have > 100 and you know it!  How many on-line gifts?
>  How many forums, even for trivial use? How many mail lists? How many bank,
> credit card, paypal logins?  Amazon?  Google? Moocs? Travel related?
> Airlines? NetFlix/Hulu/iTunes? Gmail? Dropbox? GitHub? Clothing? Shopping
> in general? NYTimes and other news sources? LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter,
> G+, ...
>
> I could go on but dozens.  I seriously, Seriously doubt it.
>
>> OK maybe hundreds over decades, but ... current?
>>
>
> Not so fast, mister!  They're still there and very hackable.
>
>> Admittedly, I have probably cranked through a similar number of
>> "throwaways" where I've signed up for something (because that is the only
>> way to sample/test) and then let the login die or go fallow (and my
>> hashword) with it.    But hundreds?  Really?  I'm worried about you guys!
>> They have groups and 12 step programs for things like this!
>>
>
> Login die?  You sure?  And indeed, how many folks can "delete" an account?
>  Most don't have an obvious way do do so.
>
>>  As for mnemonics or mental-hash-generators (hashwords?)... my decades of
>> high security environments where writing my password down anywhere
>> (including or especially electronically) or sharing it with anyone (e.g.
>> speaking it aloud) was a felony or low treason or something, I just can't
>> stand to see a password in clear text... it makes me cringe...   so a whole
>> spreadsheet of my family jewels... I just couldn't...
>>
>> I only wish there were a 2-factor system for the masses that isn't
>> spoofable (the ones that use your Mac address of your device are better
>> than nothing but not unspoofable by far).
>>
>> - Steve
>>
>
> I am so worried about you guy who don't know just how many logins you
> have!  :)
>
>    -- Owen
>
>
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