John, If you were attending the Zen Brain workshop at Upaya in Santa Fe (where I teach applied complexity in the Buddhlst Chaplaincy program)--along with some of the most famous neuroscientists in the world and Neil Theise, a remarkable complexity guy--you might find the answer to your question. The workshop starts the end of January.
Merle On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 6:17 AM, John Kennison <jkenni...@clarku.edu> wrote: > I consider myself a rational person because I believe what I observe and I > believe in what is observed by any group of people I trust (such as a near > consensus of scientists). I further believe in whatever follows logically. > I believe I can predict the likely consequences of my actions and this > helps make me a reasonably happy person. Belief in God or belief in the > inerrancy of the bible do not pass my tests. But there is scientific > evidence that religious people are healthier and happier than non-religious > people. This seems to be so even though people who would apparently be > neither healthy nor happy are almost always religious. So what should I > make of this? > > ________________________________________ > From: Friam [friam-boun...@redfish.com] on behalf of glen [ > g...@ropella.name] > Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 7:42 PM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] "rational" > > On 01/03/2014 03:47 PM, Marcus G. Daniels wrote: > > Or the `successful' may just be apex predators, but still just one of > > many possible species of person. They feed on the productivity of these > > other species. Perhaps not wanting to be one of them, the drug addict > > (unconsciously) denies the predator that productivity... As Arnade > > observes, everyone makes mistakes, so perhaps we can just enumerate the > > wolves and note that's what wolves do but that they get no further honor. > > Well, it seems to me that the ascription of honor (or any other > honorific) is a dynamic thing. Not only is society fickle like that, > but it's also difficult to predict what your arbitrary weirdo might take > _pride_ in. Witness: > > http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/man-dies-eating-roaches-587314 > > or > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armin_Meiwes > > So, we can't prescribe what honor the wolves get. In fact, merely > counting them might encourage more people to want to be them. I think > the answer lies in creating/facilitating wolf-eating species. > > -- > =><= glen > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com -- Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D. President, Center for Emergent Diplomacy Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA me...@emergentdiplomacy.org mobile: (303) 859-5609 skype: merlelefkoff
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