Just looked at the systems built for between $400-$800.
http://pcpartpicker.com/guide/#X=39404,82077&sort=d3&page=1
I sorted it by date because I found that several parts were no longer
available when sorting by popularity.
Also, the OS was $90 generally for Windows 8.x, and often left off the
overall price. Linux and OSX have free OS's nowadays, so was a bit
surprised at that added cost. Also the shipping sometimes said Free but now
is $4.00.
The Tech Report http://techreport.com/review/29012/system-guide-current
was superb, great way to learn how to build a system with
good explanations on each part of the builds.
I think if I were building a system, I'd start with their budget system and
upgrade a few parts.
So I'm left with a few questions:
- Once you buy Windows, do you get upgrades for free?
- How interoperable are the pieces within a given form factor? I.e. if in 3
years I can afford to amp it up a bit, should it be easy to upgrade to a
faster CPU? More RAM?, A new graphics card (assuming I don't have an
integrated one)?
My guess that's asking for a lot but possibly keeping within a given family
of devices might let me be more future-proof.
-- Owen
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> On Dec 21, 2015, at 12:42 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote:
>
> What (if any) realistic benifits are there to building a computer yourself
> these days?
>
>
> 1. You may be able to get a better overall price at the cost of your
> labour. With the kind of system which you're considering, price
> differential between commodity components and the complete system is
> subsumed by the OEM discounts compared to your prices. Enthusiast systems
> tend to have greater price differentials, especially since many spec
> computers simply don't have high-end components.
> 2. You can customize the system to meet your requirements rather than
> some generic set of requirements the manufacturer thinks will fit some
> subset of the marketplace. Some examples - using integrated graphics
> instead of a discrete GPU, using RAID 1 or 6 - are usually not possible
> without modifying a spec computer. Once you add in the customization, the
> cost of building it yourself is frequently lower.
>
>
>
> And does anyone have opinions or experience with Cybertron(PC)? I found
> them on a random google search.
>
> One in particular here people seem fairly content with:
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/CybertronPC-Hellion-TGM1213B-FX-6300-GeForce/dp/B00D1KWS3
>
>
> You may want to do some research into complaints - I can't remember if
> it was Cybertron, iBuyPower, or Cyberpower , but I remember seeing
> complaints about one (or more) of them. Something to do with components
> failing and poor customer support which is just as true of Dells and HPs.
>
>
> One thing that stands out is they seem to use regular parts. Some of those
> seem to get somewhat ok reviews. A few people have said it'd be a good
> idea to update the power supply.
>
>
> Just like Dell or HP, when you read the fine print they reserve the
> right to substitute "equivalent" parts. I have had hardware problems and
> the manufacturer can't determine which component my computer has, even with
> full serial numbers.
>
> when compared to following guides on http://pcpartpicker.com/ making
> sure I stick to systems that are around 700-800 dollars.
>
> I more or less come up with simillar parts, and I end up spending as much
> of or even way more.
>
> I suspect in part because Winderz 10 is around 130-200 dollars, and intel
> chips are pretty expensive.
>
> Anecdotally years ago I couldn't tell the difference from a intel vs AMD
> chip in real world day to day and gaming.
>
>
> I used to use AMD exclusively, but they have not succeeded in keeping up
> with Intel in compute performance or power saving.
>
>
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