For the TL;DR crowd, a summary of my last response might be as simple as
"I am wanting" == Idle Speculation
"I want" == Statement of Intent
On 10/28/16 4:45 PM, glen ☣ wrote:
On 10/28/2016 03:10 PM, Steven A Smith wrote:
I've always assumed everyone else's does too... So, when one looks
at the content of a mailing list like this, they can _see_ trees of
threads, right? If not, I highly recommend a modern client. 8^) It
helps a lot.
I agree... but I think many/most don't see this view and I don't
believe many will obtain one soon nor easily.
It's just Mozilla Thunderbird (well, Icedove on one machine,
Thunderbird on another)... It's free and open source, which means
anyone can have it if they want it. I also think I remember Eudora
having a nice tree-based threaded view. Pretty much any usenet reader
has it. So, I'm confused why others wouldn't use such tools.
Maybe you can tell me how "Nick is wanting" structures your
thoughts different from "Nick wants"?
I think it is my perceived tentativeness of what I think Nick
wants... meaning I'm not sure he knows what he wants or understands
the implications of what he wants. I'm not sure about the
grammatical or semantic roots of this (why I use "is wanting" over
"wants") but it is interesting to me that you can call it out so
clearly. Unfortunately I am probably conflating or convolving my
own unsureness of what I *think* Nicks wants into what I believe to
be his own lack of clarity...
For contrast, I think I would be MUCH less likely to use the same
phrasing to describe my understanding of what I *think* YOU want...
or Marcus... or many others here who have a crisper sense of
confidence in what you are asking/suggesting. Our patron St.
Stephen of Guerin, I am *much* more likely to use "he is wanting"....
perhaps Renee's "I am wanting" vs "I want" reflects some of this same
ambiguity of detail? If she were more precise in her own mind about
what she wants, might she be more likely to use the more assertive?
That's intriguing, as is Marcus'. I have noticed (and have the guts
to point out for some reason) that lots of people express their
thoughts with an external locus of control. My favorite example was
when I noticed the CO^2 regulator on our office keg was broken. I
asked my partner: What happened to the CO^2? He said "It broke."
>8^) I asked for more clarity and he responded something like: "I was
<doingsomethingorother> and it fell over and broke." So, I asserted:
"Do you mean that you broke it?" And he relented and said "Yes."
Perhaps there is something of that in both your and Marcus' response.
It's a kind of removal/abstraction/distancing from any intimate
knowledge or clarity surrounding the itch ... left wanting some
scratching.
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