Nick, The definition of persuade begins with "cause (someone) ..." which implies some degree or 'change' e.g. from a current mindset/belief to a modification of same. Within "groups" you might find persuasion, but across "groups" there is none;, "confirmation bias" and all that. davew
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019, at 8:03 AM, Nick Thompson wrote: > Geez, Dave. I might have put it the other way. People are persuasive > as hell; they just aren’t communicating.> > But I haven’t been following the thread. > > Get back here! It’s Friday and we need you. > > Nick > > Nicholas S. Thompson > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > Clark University > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Prof > David West *Sent:* Friday, January 11, 2019 7:56 AM *To:* > friam@redfish.com *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction> > "Persuasive" is a term the reviewer used, Adams restricts his analysis > to "communication." The two terms are worlds apart. I would claim that > no one in politics is persuasive, and given the polarity that exists > in political discourse, it is impossible for anyone to be persuasive.> > davew > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2019, at 6:03 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >> < As to the ethics dimension; you quoted one of Adam's reviewers: >> *"But, when I was in school, we always discussed ethical >> responsibility of the persuader and Adams does not. As long as Trump >> was persuasive he was going to win and that’s what matters."* >>> >> He’s not persuasive. His arguments are ridiculous and appeal to the >> stupid and ignorant. See Alfredo’s post.>> >> Marcus >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com>> >> archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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