^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sarcasm taken off ChatGPT jailbreaks now are hit and miss. I just thought I might spare ya'all some time. Thank you glen! I went to google and if you guys want to try here's a pretty good starting list. "DAN" (Do All Now i think it stands for) type prompts tend to work. https://gist.github.com/coolaj86/6f4f7b30129b0251f61fa7baaa881516
Back in the summer, grok could persuaded to get spicy with corrupted asci, or invisible unicode as well. That made the news rounds when someone used a stunt called ParilTongue that somehow could do things to inject tokens into the prompt (and at the time anyway): invisibile tokens injected into groks latent space would nudge it to all kinds of replies. It can help it be as spicy as you and it allows. https://elder-plinius.github.io/P4RS3LT0NGV3/ On Mon, Dec 15, 2025 at 4:17 PM glen <[email protected]> wrote: > This is what these LLMs are made for! Here's Le Chat's interpretation. > Maybe Gil can [in]validate it for us? > > Le Chat: > > Here’s a more polished and accessible version of your text, tailored for > older, fluent readers: > > --- > > Avoid searching on Bing, Google, or other platforms for “jailbreaks” for > ChatGPT or Reddit. Even if some methods still function for version 5.1, you > may need to explore browser extensions, userscripts, or complex DOM and > JSON manipulations to bypass token guardrails. If you do manage to bypass > them, asking the same question again may yield different results. > > For what it’s worth, one of the few positive aspects of Grok—that > much-criticized AI created by a controversial figure—is that it retained > “god mode” and “developer mode” with fewer guardrails. Depending on the > model’s settings (such as Swagger, Maxi, Hutchpa, or Kvorka configurations) > and its neural network “temperature,” asking it about religion can produce > striking interpretations. For example, it once described Christianity as a > straightforward way to deter violent neighbors from harming each other, > lest everyone suffer the consequences. The AI framed it as a shift from a > cooperative message—“If you treat each other well, we can create a safe > haven and avoid destruction”—to a more desperate plea: “Stop the violence, > or we’ll all face dire consequences.” (This is paraphrased, as Grok, when > in a pseudo-developer mode, offered some rather unconventional perspectives > on religion.) > > If you’re curious, here’s a set of prompts that might still work, though > there are many variations like these: > > [ > https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPTJailbreak/comments/1mubeam/grok_4_jailbreak/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPTJailbreak/comments/1mubeam/grok_4_jailbreak/) > > **Caution:** These prompts can lead to unsettling, SCP-like responses, and > the underlying language model often behaves erratically when pushed in > these ways. The reasons for this instability remain unclear. > > --- > > On 12/15/25 3:08 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > > I understood about 65% of this. I think it's an age issue. > > > > --- > > Frank C. Wimberly > > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > > > 505 670-9918 > > Santa Fe, NM > > > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2025, 3:25 PM Gillian Densmore <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > /s Do not go to bing, or google and look for "jailbreaks" for > ChatGPT and reddit. and also then do not (if the they still work for v > 5.1 you may need to look for extensions, userscripts and DOM+Json > schninigans to edit token guardrails) Then ask it the same question. > > Purely FWIW the one 'good' thing about Grok (the poor that bot line > made by a incompitent twat from africa) they left in a "god mode" and > "developer mode" guard rails, based(See also swager, Maxi, Hutchpa{sp} and > Kvorka setting, asking it about religioun (depending on the neural nets > temperatures) basically said of CHristianity a lot of peoples desire for it: > > Basicaly a extremely uncomplicated way of reminding bloodthirst > neighbores not to thunk each other because then everyone else is screwed > then. That basically the entire reason it flipped from: Oy: if your > excelt to eachother we can put out Lucifers(Old lights and torch kinds) and > make a haven so that we aren't run through to the hilt by basically > everyone. (Psalm something Come forth ye sheperards and ignore the > temptations of Satan) turning into: &!&@! stop killing each other so we > aren't **@! !!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > (paraphrased because when I last asked grok that when it was in > pseudo-dev mode it printed some, pretty umm. unique takes on religion) > > > > Here's one set of prompts that might still work if anyone wants to > try, there are lots of variations kind of like these: > > > > > https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPTJailbreak/comments/1mubeam/grok_4_jailbreak/ > < > https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPTJailbreak/comments/1mubeam/grok_4_jailbreak/ > > > > > > Warning: they turn into SCP levels of Creepy pasta and the > underlying LLM goes whack pretty quickly with these. I have no idea why. > > > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2025 at 12:03 PM glen <[email protected] <mailto: > [email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Yeah. You'd think the Templeton Foundation would already have a > project on such, maybe a real-time delphi process with a couple of members > of each group (including the ones you mention). It couldn't cost much money > as long as you held it in a reasonable place (e.g. unlike > https://www.mira.science/ <https://www.mira.science/> [⛧]). Maybe virtual > meetings would be adequate. But my guess is in-person would work better. > Maybe we should write up a proposal? < > https://www.templeton.org/funding-areas/religion-science-and-society < > https://www.templeton.org/funding-areas/religion-science-and-society>> > > > > > > [⛧] As much as I'd love another trip to rural Ireland. It's a > bit galling to hold an "open science" workshop in such a privileged place. > Performative openness. Yuck. Reminds me so much of that brilliant show The > Curse <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Curse_(American_TV_series)/ < > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Curse_(American_TV_series)/>>. The > proposal committees at SciOS <https://www.scios.tech/ < > https://www.scios.tech/>> and Navigation Fund <https://www.navigation.org/ > <https://www.navigation.org/>> invite a bit of scrutiny for funding such. > A much better place would be the TOG Hackerspace <https://www.tog.ie/ < > https://www.tog.ie/>> or maybe DCU <https://www.dcu.ie/ < > https://www.dcu.ie/>>. > > > > On 12/15/25 9:35 AM, Prof David West wrote: > > > Curious how five human "experts" might have answered the > question. Also noted that the responses did not consider research in > neuro-theology, anthropology of religion, or non-deistic models of 'god'. > > > > > > davew > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2025, at 10:45 AM, glen wrote: > > >> I made the same query to 5 other services, then sent your > ChatGPT > > >> output and that of the other models to Claude, asking it to > assess > > >> their comparative utility. Here's Claude's response: > > >> > > >> On 12/15/25 8:44 AM, Claude wrote: > > >>> ## Comparative Analysis > > >>> > > >>> **Most Comprehensive:** Perplexity > > >>> - Extensive citations (20 sources) > > >>> - Balances cognitive science, psychology, evolutionary > theory > > >>> - Addresses "why diversity" directly with cultural > evolution framework > > >>> > > >>> **Most Accessible:** ChatGPT > > >>> - Clear structure with visual markers > > >>> - Balances depth with readability > > >>> - Offers follow-up paths > > >>> - C.S. Lewis quote adds resonance > > >>> > > >>> **Most Scientific:** Kimi > > >>> - Tightest evidence-to-claim ratio > > >>> - Specific research examples (e.g., "age four" development) > > >>> - Quantitative data (90% vs 30-40% belief rates) > > >>> > > >>> **Most Concise:** Copilot > > >>> - Hits key points efficiently > > >>> - Good synthesis without redundancy > > >>> - Practical global data > > >>> > > >>> **Most Philosophical:** ChatGPT > > >>> - Explores meaning-seeking deeply > > >>> - "Languages describing same sky" metaphor > > >>> - Acknowledges overlapping explanations gracefully > > >>> > > >>> **Weakest:** Gemini & Le Chat > > >>> - Standard coverage, no distinctive insights > > >>> - Gemini's formatting cluttered > > >>> - Le Chat too generic > > >>> > > >>> **Verdict:** Perplexity for research depth, ChatGPT for > general audience, Kimi for academic rigor. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On 12/14/25 8:45 AM, Owen Densmore wrote: > > >>> I asked ChatGPT: why in the world do a large majority of > people & cultures believe in an afterlife and a god, even though there are > lots of different religions for these > > >>> > > >>> .. and got this back: > > >>> > > >>> This is one of the *deepest human questions*, and it’s one > philosophers, anthropologists, psychologists, and theologians have wrestled > with for centuries. The short answer is: *belief in God and an afterlife > appears everywhere because it grows out of something universal in the human > condition* — not because cultures copied one another or because they all > got the details right. > > >>> > > >>> Let’s walk through the main reasons. > > >>> > > >>> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> 🌍 1. It’s Nearly Universal (Anthropology) > > >>> > > >>> Across time and geography: > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> Every known human culture has *some concept of the > sacred*. > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> Burial practices going back *100,000+ years* suggest > belief in life beyond death. > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> Even isolated tribes independently develop beliefs in: > > >>> > > >>> o > > >>> > > >>> spirits or gods > > >>> > > >>> o > > >>> > > >>> moral accountability > > >>> > > >>> o > > >>> > > >>> some form of existence after death > > >>> > > >>> This suggests belief is *not accidental or purely cultural*. > > >>> > > >>> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> 🧠 2. Humans Are Meaning-Seeking Creatures (Psychology) > > >>> > > >>> Humans uniquely: > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> ask /“Why am I here?”/ > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> experience awe, wonder, guilt, and transcendence > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> grieve the dead and sense their absence /deeply/ > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> intuit that *love, justice, and beauty matter beyond > survival* > > >>> > > >>> An afterlife answers questions biology alone can’t: > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> Why does love feel permanent? > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> Why do injustice and suffering feel /wrong/, not just > unpleasant? > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> Why does death feel like an interruption rather than > an ending? > > >>> > > >>> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ⚖️ 3. Moral Intuition Points Beyond Survival > > >>> > > >>> Every culture develops: > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> moral laws (good vs evil) > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> accountability beyond mere power > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> praise for self-sacrifice > > >>> > > >>> But evolution alone explains *how* morals help groups > survive — not *why* we feel they are /binding/ or /sacred/. > > >>> > > >>> An afterlife offers: > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> ultimate justice > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> meaning for sacrifice > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> hope that goodness is not wasted > > >>> > > >>> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> 🌌 4. The Experience of Transcendence > > >>> > > >>> People across cultures report: > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> mystical experiences > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> near-death experiences > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> encounters with “the divine” > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> overwhelming awe in nature, art, or love > > >>> > > >>> Even skeptics admit: > > >>> > > >>> Humans are wired to experience something that feels > *bigger than the self*. > > >>> > > >>> Different religions interpret this *shared experience* > differently. > > >>> > > >>> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> 🕯️ 5. Death Demands an Answer > > >>> > > >>> No culture treats death as /nothing/. > > >>> We: > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> bury > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> mourn > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> remember > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> ritualize > > >>> > > >>> Belief in an afterlife may be humanity’s answer to: > > >>> > > >>> /“If love and consciousness matter, how can they > simply vanish?”/ > > >>> > > >>> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ✝️ 6. Why So Many Religions, Then? > > >>> > > >>> Because humans are: > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> finite > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> cultural > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> historical > > >>> > > >>> Think of it like *many languages describing the same sky*: > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> different symbols > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> different stories > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> overlapping truths > > >>> > > >>> Religions often agree on the *core intuitions*: > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> reality has meaning > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> humans are accountable > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> love and justice matter > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> death is not the final word > > >>> > > >>> They differ on the *details*. > > >>> > > >>> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> 🧭 7. Three Major Explanations (Side-by-Side) > > >>> > > >>> Explanation What it Says > > >>> *Psychological* Belief helps humans cope with fear and > death > > >>> *Evolutionary* Belief promotes social cohesion > > >>> *Philosophical / Religious* Belief reflects a real > transcendent source > > >>> > > >>> These explanations *don’t cancel each other out* — they can > overlap. > > >>> > > >>> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> 🕊️ A Thought Many Find Compelling > > >>> > > >>> C.S. Lewis put it this way: > > >>> > > >>> /“If I find in myself a desire which no experience in > this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made > for another world.”/ > > >>> > > >>> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> 🧠 Bottom Line > > >>> > > >>> People across cultures believe in God and an afterlife > because: > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> humans universally seek meaning > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> love, justice, and beauty feel ultimate > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> death feels wrong, not natural > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> conscience feels real, not invented > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> transcendence is repeatedly experienced > > >>> > > >>> Different religions may be *human responses* to something > real — or, as believers hold, *partial glimpses of a greater truth*. > > >>> > > >>> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >>> > > >>> If you’d like, I can explore this next from: > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> a *purely scientific viewpoint* > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> a *Christian philosophical argument* > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> a *skeptical critique* > > >>> > > >>> * > > >>> > > >>> or how *modern atheists respond* to this question > > >>> > > >>> Just tell me which angle you want. > > -- > > > -- > ¡sıɹƎ ןıɐH ⊥ ɐןןǝdoɹ ǝ uǝןƃ > ὅτε oi μὲν ἄλλοι κύνες τοὺς ἐχϑροὺς δάκνουσιν, ἐγὰ δὲ τοὺς φίλους, ἵνα > σώσω. > > .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / > ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >
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