On 13 May 2010 01:16, Miklos Vajna <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 01:45:51PM +0200, Devil505 <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> For the planet, I can administer bilboplanet myself.
>> About b2evolution, honestly devels seems to not using it, Vmiklos has
>> his own blog, me too with my wordpress on genesis.
>
> Yep, what about just getting rid of blogs.frugalware.org and redirecting
> it to planet.frugalware.org?

+1. While browsing frugalware.org I usually make the mistake of going
to blogs.frugalware.org and am usually disappointed. :P

> I'm especially asking because I don't want to delete the posts of other
> devels, OTOH it looks really bad (from a PR perspective) that the last
> post there is from last year. :) (And planet is updated regularly.)
>
>> > Should you have any questions, I'm open to answer them, doing my best.
>>
>> What about the forums ? You think we should migrate from fudforum to
>> drupal's forum module ?
>
> Technically that's possible as well. (I have no idea if the mailing list
> gateway would work with it, though.) The question - as it has been
> pointed out already - is that:
>
> 1) If we switch, who will implement the current features?
>
> 2) Who will migrate existing data?
>
> Data migration for the homepage part is easy, we have the data in a
> simple sql db and xml files (and probably we want to let a possible new
> engine keep using them), but migrating the bts data is quite a
> non-trivial task.

I like the idea of moving to Drupal, mainly because (1) it's a
well-known, well-respected CMS, (2) it offers the advantage of
reducing passwords (mentioned by Boobaa), (3) it separates
presentation logic from content.

However we need to be confident that we can complete the work within a
reasonable amount of time. Perhaps it could be completed
piece-by-piece - e.g. homepage-ng first, planet second etc? We also
need to be confident that we can continue to maintain it. From what
has been discussed now and in the past, it seems that no-one is 100%
happy with our ability to maintain what we already have installed.
Therefore a move to a CMS like Drupal, seems like a move forward. At
the moment I believe we have a Drupal expert on the development team
(I'm looking at you, Boobaa) but even if we didn't, I think we could
continue on since it's well documented and for technical issues that
arose we could seek help outside the Frugalware development team and
community.

Regarding migrating data from the BTS I agree that this will be
perhaps the most difficult. Could the amount of work be reduced simply
by closing bugs reported against anything other than 1.2?

Regarding the email gateway for the forums, this is a nice feature but
surely not absolutely required? As Devil505 has said, those who want
to keep up with posts perhaps should make use of the RSS feed?

As a non-member of the development team and someone who already
struggles at times with his role in the Frugalware community, these
comments are worth whatever you think of them. In other words "I would
love to see these improvements made, but I won't be able to help
much." :P


May you always be Frugal,

Russell Dickenson (AKA phayz)
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