On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Daniel Exner <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I was only hit minor by udev update: RV770 firmware wasn't loaded, so no
> accelerated 3D. ;-)
>
> I vote against the idea for a wip enforcement on base. Why?
> Because a wip makes only sense if its used, and that way the breakages
> are found before hitting current.
> But as some of you already said, most wip are never used. Or some are
> used, but no feedback (whether positive or negative) is given.
> Current is used, and the actual breakage showed, that it works: the
> experts in fixing it got hit, and it got fixed.
>
> If ryu0 would have used a wip exactly the same would have happened: he
> would have tested it, invite others to do so, no one would have done (or
> given feedback) and it would be merged into current..
>
> End users using current for production use and complain about breakage..
> naar ;)
>
> For me a wip makes sense if making a update results in bumping too many
> packages, for all mirrors to update them in a reasonable time, or its
> visible that an update could have unforseen breakages depending on it.
>
> Tesing wip repos make only sense if there would be some _automatic_ user
> acceptance testing that would ensure no breakages.
> Since I've done quite some research in this I can ensure you: this is
> currently impossible.
>
> So, just my 2 cents: _use_ current, fix bugs when possible, have a 2.
> box and boot CD for repair at hand ;)
>
> Greetings
> DeX
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 I'll have to agree with Daniel on this one, a WIP in these case
wouldn't be all that useful IMO. If someone bumps something and it's
something major which can break things then yes a WIP would probably
be nice. But after all it's current, things can break and no one
guarantees things work in current ( that's what stable is for ). Of
course if you update a package you should build and test it.
 There would be a solution to current breaking sometimes: use the
LiveCD and have some kind of roll-back mechanism to revert the
updates.
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