On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Agree. > > When we disconnect work from income, as you suggest, then how do people > receive income?
Darn good question. I have a chapter titled "Roboeconomics" in the text I wrote for the IMP course, cc'd. But I would say that it is the most un-satisfying chapter of all (to me). I left the students with the idea of perpetual motion and free energy machines in the last lesson 36. Discovery had a program the other day on this subject. From an economic perspective, such machines would change the economics of the world if they were put into widespread use. Discovery got that across. But the question would be: What do we do then? Well, the Discovery program presented both sides of the issue well and in a balanced way but I was completely unconvinced by the devices of those innovators. However, the program forgot robotics and AI. Do we not know how to build robots which just keep on running (even after the EverReady Bunny has quit)? Given that robots can replace their parts as they wear down and replenish their energy supplies, are they not perpetual motion/free energy machines? I phoned Jacque Fresco, Venus Project, ca. 1995 and he told me then that the Japanese could build a totally automated economy. Are they held in restraint by those trying to fashion a new social order according to their own designs? I don't know. I do know we are at least on the threshold of such an economy. What then? Do the machines decide who gets what by way of the products of the machines? If so, how do we program the machines for such economic dispensing? The short answer is that those who control the machines can program them to allocate as they see fit. Presently, the global masters of industry see fit to have 25,000,000 global citizens die annually for lack of barest necessities of life in the midst of plenty. So they have already decided upon a global eugenics policy. Some would more bluntly call it mass murder. I am unimpressed by this program to say the least. FWP > -----Original Message----- > From: Franklin Wayne Poley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, December 8, 2003 1:36 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Futurework] Future Teaching > > > On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > There will always be a need for human intelligence. As human intelligence > > gets encoded into routine functions, productivity rises while fewer and > > fewer people are needed in the labour force. Good or bad? Depends on how > > we distribute "the new wealth of nations" > > The educational wealth of nations could be mass distributed NOW by > teaching machines so that the poorest eligible student on the planet > would receive quality higher education at little more than the cost of pc > use. The question about MIT's $100,000,000 OCW venture is how much is > "boon" and how much is "doggle". That works out to $50,000/course. If they > give me a budget like that I will ensure that not only are the course > materials presented, but also the ENTIRE COURSE WILL BE TAUGHT. And it > will be taught by teaching machine and the human professors will have > to redefine their roles in society. > > The financial contributions of Microsoft to MIT for purportedly > innovative education make me very suspicious. Microsoft's big programs > like Windows and VS .NET are accompanied by such pathetic pedagogy in the > books and manuals which purport to explain them that I have to think that > the "doggle" part of this is deliberate. In other words they are > protecting intellectual property by using deliberate methods of confusion > so it is really counter-education disguised as education, misanthropy > disguised as philanthropy. I guess some people learned their Cold War > lessons well. Now there is a new kind of social class war: technolords > against technopeasants. I would be happy to show Microsoft how to put out > a first rate manual to accompany Windows or .NET but that does not appear > to be what they want. So much for that quaint old slogan, "The customer is > always right". > > By keeping the technopeasant masses in the dark, the technolords > have also raised up a new social class beholden to them, the > technopriests. Technopriests disguised as technicians practice > hermeneutics by teaching the ignorant peasants (alias customers) how to > interpret the 'icons' (defined as religious symbols) for program use when > any good manual would make this new priesthood unnecessary. > > That is what I would like to see Charlie Rose discuss the next time he has > President Vest on as guest. > > FWP > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Harry Pollard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, December 8, 2003 4:09 AM > > To: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [Futurework] Future Teaching > > > > > > Arthur, who establishes the codes? > > > > Harry > > > > > > ******************************************** > > Henry George School of Social Science > > of Los Angeles > > Box 655 Tujunga CA 91042 > > Tel: 818 352-4141 -- Fax: 818 353-2242 > > http://haledward.home.comcast.net > > ******************************************** > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 1:10 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [Futurework] Future Teaching > > > > As the saying goes, the smarter the machine the dumber need be > > the operator. > > > > With machine intelligence there will be little need for operators > > to know anything but punching in the codes--this goes for > > computerized machine tools or smart microwaves or smart cars. > > > > Arthur > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.548 / Virus Database: 341 - Release Date: 12/5/2003 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Futurework mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework > > > > _______________________________________________ > Futurework mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework > _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework
