>Michael Bryan Bell wrote:
>
>>  This isn't true. It just isn't. If you really think it is true, back it up
>>  with hard data, until then I'll have to respectfully disagree.
>>  You do not need a $600 surge protector to get 90% safety from normal spikes
>>  /surges/short brownouts... More like $100-$150, which generally will include
>>  enough of a battery backup to take care of the short brownouts.
>
>Even using an APC 500 backup when my power goes I have about 20 
>seconds to race to
>shut off my servers until the power just pops and everything goes black.  You
>really DO need a very expensive surge protector to give you any real level of
>safety.


I completely agree. I can't have one now as mine does NOTHING (I have 
two very complex Linux servers)


>  > Even a $20 surge protector (el cheapo power strip) will take care of most
>>  things- the difference is that the $20 one will often only handle something
>>  fairly nasty once, and then burn out, even though it still passes current
>>  and the light is on.
>
>I had the power in my building spike last year 35 times in a few minutes
>(California blackouts).  I had a $200 variety Surge protector on my G4.  My G4
>fried.  Literally.  I called the surge protector company to ask 
>about the warranty
>and they said "tough luck."  Said that they wouldn't cover a 
>situation like mine.
>Luckily I got my landlord to pay for the damage.

Well, we need to be careful, they are surge supressors, not 
protectors. They say that in the warranty many times that it does not 
protect but supress most spikes.

><<snipp'd text>>

>  > > I inform the people who chose to listen to me.  That is all.  I give them
>>  > facts.  Sometimes  wonder why I waste my time on these lists at 
>>all.  every
>>  > year it is the same thing.
>>
>>  Poor kyle. Thank you for deigning to give the world your greater knowledge,
>>  at great personal sacrifice. :)
>
>More food for unsubscribing.

We all do that. But some people have thin skin. I wouldn't put you 
there, tho, Kyle. You and I are similar... we deal with too many 
people a day to the a-holes get to us.


--
ryan

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