On Oct 12, 2005, at 8:06 AM, Brian Stewart wrote:

Local NetWork Support, nothing to do with apple

My laptop can not get a DHCP address, it gets a default 169.X.X.X. I try a second laptop and a second ethernet drop. No DHCP, most likely a problem with the two laptops, two network drops or one DHCP server?


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<McCoy> I'm a Computer Tech, Jim, not a Mind Reader!</mccoy>


What is doing the DHCP serving? What is the network infrastructure? What do you mean by Ethernet "drop": are you testing on different jacks in a building, ports on a router, or just different cables? Do either of the laptops work in other ethernet networks?

there could be any number of reasons:

Many DHCP servers require some sort of authentication or registration before they'll pass an address.

Cable modems usually do this: they'll only connect to the first ethernet device they "see" after being reset. Our own network requires that the MAC address of devices be registered before being given an IP address.

On another subnet on campus, they got tired of folks moving systems around without telling them, so they've added a twist on the cable modem thing. Once you plug a 'wrong' device into a port, it's locked out to all devices until they unlock it.

You could have miscommunication between two auto-sensing devices, this is rare with new equipment, but older 10/100 switches would often get into an "After you, Gaston!" "No, No, After YOU, Alphonse!" routine where both ports would try to auto-sense and end up on different speeds.

You could have a bad ethernet switch or hub in the mix. You could have a mis-wired ethernet hub or switch in the mix. (A sysadmin on campus was trying to diagnose a similar problem through a rats nest of hubs and switches and found, eventually that the WAN port of one switch was feeding back, through a number of other devices, into a lan port on itself.)

You could have two bad laptops, or two bad cables, or two bad ports, but I think it's unlikely.

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