on 1/2/06 9:02 PM, James Sanderson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I may be wrong, but Open Firmware is something you can do in X not 9. To
> paraphrase the adage, many many problems begin with memory.
> 

http://www.netneurotic.de/mac/openfirmware.html

has more info than I really wanted to know...

sigh

> Try  swapping out what's in with known working memory or take out one of  the
> sticks, to see if it boots. You would need to play around with  this, but it
> could be the heart of the problem.
> 
The memory is new...Wegener installed max  memory when we replace the
processor...in September or  October...

I don't know how to mess with the memory

SIGH

Kristina


> HTH,
> 
> J Sanderson On 2 Jan 2006, at 21:02, Kristina wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for the help Caleb,
>> 
>> I found the instructions for Open firmware
>> 
>> <snip> Using Open Firmware.... Holding down COMMAND + OPTION + O + F
>> 
>> used the reset button too and it did boot  but did NOT go to grey  screen or
>> a prompt to reset-all...
>> 
>> hmmm did I do that right?
>> 
>> It gave the usual disk aid notice...and then this  ALARMING one!
>> 
>> "Built in memory test has detected a problem. Please contact a service
>> technician for advice."
>> 
>> clicked OK...and everything looked "normal".
>> 
>> I was able to reboot using the other partition  which holds disk  warrior and
>> ran disk warrior.
>> 
>> When I went to change it back to the main brain.... it locked  up...and a
>> force restart takes me  back to black.
>> 
>> service technicians?... any advice?
>> 
>> Kristina near Chicago
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Kristina,
>>> 
>>> Try booting into Open Firmware and typing "reset-all", I believe. I'm not
>>> completely sure, at this rate, but the info is on Apple's site, I think.
>>> Also, if you have the original CD that came with the 'Book,  you can try
>>> booting from that. Email me offlist if you don't have it, and I'll see what
>>> I can dig up.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps, Caleb On Monday, Jan 2, 2006, at 12:07 America/Chicago,
>>> Kristina wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I put it [G3-OS9.2] to sleep last night...was working fine
>>>> 
>>>> except sometimes the keyboard doesn't respond...I was thinking it might
>>>> need replaced, I've had to replace everything else...why not!
>>>> 
>>>> This morning I turned it on, went to get coffee and when I came back it was
>>>> at the desktop and frozen. Great!
>>>> 
>>>> I force quit  control+apple+ on/off button nothing
>>>> 
>>>> I try to rebuild the destop with extensions off...and half way  thru the
>>>> startup list of extensions it froze
>>>> 
>>>> Now I can't wake it up
>>>> 
>>>> I tried reset button...the first time it came opened to the G3 powerbook
>>>> Icon wallpaper thingy and dialog box saying your computer did not  shut
>>>> down properly Disk Aid will perform necessary repairs...
>>>> 
>>>> when I clicked  <done> it said that Disk Aid had performed an  illegal
>>>> operation and is interfering with start up ...or something like  that.
>>>> 
>>>> I tried to start up from a CD w Disk Warrior...I had to pop out  the CD
>>>> drive and pin open the drive to load the CD.
>>>> 
>>>> reset button to start up from CD
>>>> 
>>>> black as tar.
>>>> 
>>>> I hear fan/processor /something going on.
>>>> 
>>>> The HD is partitioned so there is a system folder on two of the
>>>> partitions...one has disk warrior on it...the other one is my main brain.
>>>> 
>>>> Kristina


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