my lot let me know how much cost what and such and well they would buy stuff, I now do opay most of my stuff while at home so I know where you are coming from. I however do still have all the games well most of the vip stuff now. except stuff I don't need or like. At 03:55 a.m. 26/07/2008, you wrote: >Hi, >Yeah. That's the thing with kids. Because their parents tend to get >everything for them they've never had the experience of paying for things. >I'll admit now it was the same with me. My mom bought my food, my clothes, >equipment, event tickets, holidays, CD's, she paid the bills, so of course >when I'm not living with my mother any more and it's a big blow to realise >that everything in life wants money, and then when I started developing >games myself, like most people, I realised just what went into it. >I think most of us as youngsters do a bit of digital stealing, whether it be >radio broadcasts, music, software, but then it either takes us to mature >enough to realise that we're stealing, or to start doing the very business >we stole from ourselves for us to realise what we're doing is wrong. >Regards, >Damien. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> >Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 4:02 PM >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! > > >> Hi, >> Well, there are many points of view about intelectual copyrights, but >> the fact of the matter is if you pirate software you are hurting the >> company in question in one way or another. High quality sound effects, >> graphics, and music can get very expensive. A game developer needs money >> to purchase these things, and if you pirate the games then that is less >> money to use on the next game. That isn't even considering the labor >> costs involved in working on a game 10 to 20 hours a week. >> Let us look at this in this way. Which would produce more income for me. >> I could work at McDonald's for 20 hours a week and get a pay check every >> two weeks, or I can work for 20 hours a week for an entire year with no >> pay and have some young, upstart, pirates steel all of my work for free. >> Now, if those very same pirates were forced to work for a year, and then >> were expecting to be paid at the end of that year and were not paid what >> would they say? I am pretty certain they would be screaming for some >> heads to roll, and want their money the day before yesterday. >> The absolute truth is a lot of pirates have no experience in business >> and are just kids who have not had real life experience in trying to >> earn a living. They have some foolish notion that they deserve >> everything served to them on a golden platter without paying for it. >> Once they grow up a little they see everyone needs to work to make a >> living, and steeling is steeling no matter what intelectual spin you put >> on it. >> I don't know how old you are, but when you say things like, "it all >> depends on what you think work and effort should cost," shows a lack of >> experience in business. A business requires materials, employees, and a >> certain percent of proffet. If you don't have enough money to buy all >> the materials to create a product you can't make the product, if you >> have no money for employees you have no one to produce the products, and >> if you have no proffet you can't purchase food, pay the rent, pay the >> phone bill, and so on. Those are facts, and not open to intelectual >> opinions. >> >> >> Parham wrote: >>> Perhaps. And perhaps not. Everyone is working on what their produce, but >>> I >>> think it all goes back to you choosing, in your mind, how much work and >>> effort deserves being paid for. People have different opinions on that. I >>> do >>> not tend to defend my friend, nore crytisize her, but am just stating >>> facts. >>> I have never played Judgement Day, so I can't say. I have played Super >>> Liam >>> though, the demo, at least, and it wasn't different from the many >>> sidescrollers up to that point. Of course the rest are different, and >>> that's >>> why I choose to take a neutral position in this discussion, because it's >>> going on a narrow ledge. >>> --- >>> Contact info: >>> Skype: parham-d >>> MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com >>> email: parham90 at GMail dot com >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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