Hi Shaun, You know, that's about the most insulting comment I've heard from you in a while. We should not be putting our fellow blind brothers/sisters down for belonging to an institution or being unaware of what alternatives their are. The entire point Dark was trying to make about the RNIB and other organizations like them is that they don't often make their clients aware of what is available to them regardless if they fit the stereotypical view or not.
For instance, back in the mid 1990's when I started really loosing my sight BSVI enrolled me in a technology training program to be shown things like Jaws, Openbook, braille displays, and things like that. I remember clearly asking my trainer if there were any other screen readers besides Jaws and he replied that there were other screen readers but none of them were very good. Jaws was the only one that was any good, and why BSVI recommended it to their clients. So I believed him, and took his statement as fact. Well fast foward to a couple years later. I am now taking a class in C++, and I had to use Borland's Turbo C++ for class. I could not get Jaws for Dos to work properly with the C++ compiler. I was on a campis wide broadband connection so decided to check out other screen readers like Vocal-Eyes, ASAP, etc. Turns out that Vocal-Eyes worked with Borland C++ where Jaws for Dos wouldn't. Plus since Vocal-Eyes was easier to customize than Jaws, no need to write scripts to configure it for an app, I managed to get through my course using a screen reader other than Jaws. That lead me to downloadand try everything from Window-Eyes to ASAW and see if my recommendation from the experts were true. Fact is the experts were flat out wrong. Today I am now a happy Window-Eyes user, and I rarely if ever use Jaws. However, my point is the same as Dark's. I was caught up in the institutional line, was sold on the idea Jaws is the absolute best, and that wasn't necessarily true. In fact, today with Window-Eyes and Hal becoming equal to and sometimes better than Jaws that's definitely not true. I wouldn't have known that or had reason to look elsewhere if it hadn't been for an app I couldn't get Jaws to use, and decided on a whim to try something else and see if it works. I was certainly not to blame for not knowing any better, and in a sense I was lied to. This is what the RNIB etc are doing evrytime they give deference to someone like Azabat without at least representing other game companies games too. Laughing at our fellow blind brothers/sisters for their ignorance of such things really shows how immature you are. Cheers! On 4/27/11, shaun everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote: > well I know for a fact that we have better stuff like as a bat. > Its disgusting that an org caters for the poor blind stereo type. > Not only that but inferior titles really since simular games, like > kitchensinc are out. > Then there is the rsgames client and quentin c playroom for online play. > These are free and hello! better than that or something I don't know > because I don't play as a poor blind persons games. > My suggestion is to let well alone. > They want to cater for the poor blind, let them, there are plenty of > poor blind people that want to be poor blind. > And since they can't see anything bar the poor blind the rest of > us can laugh about their sillyness and they won't even give a screw. > And they won't change. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
