Hi tom.
that all sounds pretty dire, I especially ahte the sound of the columnized
views, but we'll see. Once again though this is the trend of having
information all on screen rather than accessible through separate areas.
i hope myself there will be the opportunity to put it into lists or some
other change to stop it looking as stupid, ---- and whoever thought of
ribbons needs hanging on the end of one and punching for several days Imho.
yes, I am biased I freely admit, but ribbons just annoy me, sinse they are
so damn illogical.
hopefully though sinse windows 7's lack of customizability in the interface
was a major turn off microsoft will actually listen on this one and offer
some alternatives, but we'll have to see. Otherwise I might be heading off
to find bill gates with a very big hammer, ---- though I suspect I'll have
to wait in the kew, sinse I imagine lots of people are looking for bill
gates with very big hammers :d.
"hay bill, like windows? ---- maybe your head needs a new context window
opening! let me pin this to your task bar!" :d.
Beware the Grue!
Dark.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly
Hi Dark,
Well, yes and no. Certainly I think UI Automation, the improved Sapi
voices, improved speech recognition in the Windows 8 consumor beta are
good things However, the new user interface is so radically different from
XP, Vista, Windows 7, etc that a lot of blind Windows users, especially
those who like XP, are going to absolutely hate Windows 8 because of the
new interface even though Microsoft is working hard to provide equal
access to the OS and its pretty accessible out of the box already.
For example, the start menu as you know it is totally gone. Instead when
you log into Windows 8 you land on a start menu with program groupes tiled
in columns across the screen. This is perfectly fine for a mouse user who
can point to the program group and click on it, but if you have to figure
out what row and column a program is in it can be a bit of a pain access
wise as there is no list view or tree view structure as in prior versions
of Windows. When looking at files folders, etc in explorer they are also
tiled the same way and its going to take blind users a while to get use to
looking for things since they are arranged in a table like view rather
than a vertical list.
Plus a lot of things in Windows 8 just don't work the way they did in Win
7 and earlier. In XP if you press the context key you get a vertical list
of menu options like Open, Save, Print, etc. Under Windows 8 if you press
the context key you get a context screen with options tiled from left to
right. Instead of using up and down arrow you have to scroll left and
right with the left and right arrow keys. The first time I saw that it
threw me for a loop, because I wasn't expecting things to change so
radically.
Finally, ribbons are a standard part of the Windows interface, and despite
talk of Microsoft removing them I sincerely doubt it. Almost all the
programs in Windows 8 have ribbons instead of menus. Windows Explorer,
Internet Explorer, Wordpad, Windows Mail, Windows Media player, you name
it all have ribbons. If you hate ribbons then you aren't going to like
Windows 8 at all from a user interface perspective.
However, that said if you are interested in an overview of what's changed
I highly recommend you listen to a demonstration done by GW Micro
http://www.gwmicro.com
at this years convention. I think it will give you and everyone an idea of
what Windows 8 has in store for us both good and bad. The link to the
podcast is right on the main page.
Cheers!
On 3/14/2012 4:20 AM, dark wrote:
Hi Tom.
it might actually be then that microsoft are doing right in win8 what
they missed in win7? sinse certainly I've not heard these things about
win7.
Whether however they continue with support for these changes and if they
appear in none beta win 8 (I mean, I heard win7 was supposed to feature
more of narrator), we'll see, though as I said this might well mean that
I'll end up skipping from xp to win8 completely.
We'll just have to see where it ends up and if these things actually
happen or not.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
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