Hi paulette.
What sometimes dispairs me is the ignorance of some users.
The throw away tech we have and the fact that if something goes
people are interested in getting things fixed.
The quickest way to fix something is a reformat.
It always works and no research is needed.
Now unless you are some sort of linux guru and most people in the
world arn't, well, in windows you don't even need to really know what
you are doing.
If it works good if not, you reformat and it all goes away.
A lot of users don't have the drive to actually fix things and for
those in business I guess I can understand, but I have been round the
boxes since 1990, and have seen the historys from 1950 when they came
online computers I mean.
And it saddens me that no one cares about what was.
What was shaped what is and what is yet to come.
Knowing what was enables me to understand what is happening, and why.
If windows decides to go boom its almost not worth the attempts to
try to handle things.
I have no idea why people put all their eggs in 1 basket with the registry.
Its a good place but its its own programming language in itself.
All those libraries are good but failing libs can take the system.
If a module in dos failed, it could be replaced.
If a module in windows failes, you reformat because chances are the
entire system is pulled down with the falier.
I guess the extra security and data protection is good but still, I'd
take configuration files any day and with the compressed encripted
xmls as they are we really don't need a registry at all to be honest.
I digress though.
I do fear though that a tech won't eventually have to interact as
closely as he has in the past.
And it scares me that we are losing touch for the past and only
concentrating on right now.
Anyway ibm could have chosen something other than ms to handle things
in the day.
we were running a unix type system back then.
If dos was never invented and ms never got there we would probably
still running one.
At 10:47 a.m. 23/04/2012 -0400, you wrote:
Shawn, it sounds like you know a lot about computers from way back. You know
now, they make you pay money and get degrees in what you learned how to do
by the seat of your pants and your well worn boot straps. My husband feels
the same way. He is a MIS, manager of information systems. He is not
interested in programming or games at all, but he can clean out a computer
and understands how they work and can set up any web page from the ground
up. He learned all of that by just being there as the computer developed and
by taking a few classes along the way which were paid for by his work.
Sometimes I wish we were still back with good old dos.
Paulette
-----Original Message-----
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of shaun everiss
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 12:43 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks
Well the columns are not to bad neither are the ribbons though I am an old
dos hacker that likes to fly by the seat of my pants.
If you never had to gut your config.sys to fix a problem or hack something
on your box to optimise it knowing that at any second it could just go nuts
and you'd have to start all over, well you don't have the drive.
In a way windows is a bit more restricting.
sure you can hack away but the registry is not happy you change one thing
and will show it by taking out everything not just one module.
A reformat is required to make it all work again and hence I don't touch
things unless I need to.
I also like the search boxes the fact I don't have to navigate stupid
columns or lists like I have to do in xp really helps me a lot.
even if I know part of what I want thats fine.
I think for now we will have to have all our icons in folders on the desktop
and navigate that that way annoying that it is.
At 02:09 p.m. 22/04/2012 +0100, you wrote:
>I think keyboards will always be around for typing and word processing,
>which is a major part of business, since it's very difficult to imagine
>say stenography or other forms of dictation being done on a touch
>screen device.
>
>that being said, i have noticed a general trend in all sorts of media
>devices to present as much information in a single place as possible,
>adds, flashy arrows, and other stuff not withstanding.
>This is why windows 7 and 8 has the stupid columns layout, so that
>sighted people don't have to go through multiple screens of information
>and can have the lot in one place for quick visual overview, which is
>pretty bad for Vi users since that sort of layout is much more
>confusing.
>
>This is not just on pcs, but on touch screen devices, console game
>interfaces and lots of things, look at the wii mote and it's use in
>menues with floating icons (thank you nintendo!).
>
>On the plus side, some of these moves have not worked, ie, ribbons, and
>personalization seems a pretty major thing as well, so it might be that
>we end up with devices that have! touch screens with large
>informational displays, but which can be altered in their display
>settings to show less information, ---- we'll just have to see.
>
>then again, the world economic situation at the moment is so loopy,
>goodness knows what is going to happen to technological developement
>over the next few years, especially over the next 10 or 20 years when
>more people who are big internet users and gamers start becoming blind,
>----- heck the webmaster of retroremakes.com is in his early 40's.
>Then of course there is voice control, a feature which lots of sighted
>users actually want as well since it offers a very much faster way of
>doing things, and one which I think we'll be seeing increase, -----
>assuming the world doesn't go blong with some sort of cataclysmic
>economic and/or military crash, which unfortunately also seems quite a
>possibility.
>
>So, it's probably going to be a case of wait and see what happens, find
>ways that work for you personally, and watch where the over all trends go.
>
>Beware the Grue!
>
>dark.
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Desiree Oudinot"
><turtlepowe...@gmail.com>
>To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 12:09 AM
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks
>
>
>>Hi Damien,
>>Well, we're way past the point where devices with keyboards will be as
>>heavily marketed as they used to be. Unfortunately, what most people
>>are saying is true--the demand for touch screens is a lot higher than
>>the demand for buttons and keyboards. Just look at home appliances
>>that only use touch screens, forcing us to either label them or search
>>for longer than we should have to for older models that are more
>>accessible. My attitude is that, you may have to jump through a few
>>hoops down the road to get the technology you want if you stick to
>>what works for you, but it should pay off in the end. While I
>>definitely do think there's a possibility that all devices with
>>buttons could be fazed out, I don't think it's near enough in the
>>future that we need to panic or complain about it for now. I'm going
>>to cross that bridge when I come to it, if it ever even happens.
>>
>>On 4/21/12, bpeterson2...@cableone.net <bpeterson2...@cableone.net> wrote:
>>>This is only the first attempt. I don't doubt that in the future
>>>they'll be able to be made even more accessible than they are now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake
Titicaca!
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Damien Pendleton
>>>Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 3:06 PM
>>>To: Gamers Discussion list
>>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks
>>>
>>>Hi Brian,
>>>What I'm trying to say is, the very nature of a touch screen device
>>>makes it seem rather inaccessible, no matter how many attempts and
>>>tweaks you make at it. It'd be like giving a computer user a mouse, a
>>>screenreader, but no keyboard. The fact is, blind people cannot see
>>>the screen, so it would take them way longer than should be necessary
>>>to access things that could be accessed in seconds.
>>>As for the button-style cases, again. Good plan, if it weren't for
>>>the fact that the screen was constantly changing, and therefore
>>>you're still tapping, or pressing, for longer than necessary, trying
>>>to find what you need. There are only two buttons on a Simbian based
>>>Nokia at least, that change on a regular basis. Those are your two
>>>soft keys, and talks always announces them to you before you even press
them.
>>>Regards,
>>>Damien.
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: <bpeterson2...@cableone.net>
>>>To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>>>Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 9:53 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'd say that the fact that Apple attempted to develop a way to make
>>>>touch screens accessible is a big score in their favor, not an
>>>>attempt to con the law.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake
>>>>Titicaca!
>>>
>>>
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