I didn't have time to read the links earlier, Stephen, but they're still here in my inbox for a little light bedtime reading later tonight. Thanks for sharing them.
Cee ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Manuel To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING I don't know how many of you followed all 4 of the links I posted, but you should if you haven't. This stinks to high heaven, so far 11 Alabama legislators, 1 lobbyist, and 1 HUGE Auburn booster have been indicted. The largest Bank failure in the USA in the last year was headed by a HUGE Auburn booster, the Board of Directors of the Bank was manned by HUGE Auburn Boosters, the FBI is investigating all of this, plus the Cam Newton Situation. The Auburn Booster that has been indicted, was also the subject of a Murder for Hire Investigation, plus his movements are being tracked for threatening an FBI Agent. Here's my prediction for Cam Newton, he will not be suspended or declared ineligible...Auburn in poker terms is ALL IN, they could care less what the NCAA does to them so long as they beat Alabama, win the SEC and play for a NC. Oliver, the BBT is a distant memory of tailgates gone by. Stephen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "oli...@bobparks.com" <oli...@bobparks.com> To: Gator Talk <gatortalk@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thu, November 18, 2010 4:29:59 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING I'm afraid Stephen is correct. It isn't if, it's how bad is it? Stephen, you're also correct that it's going to be very big! This isn't going to be good for college football. Nor, is it going to be good for SECfootball. I can already hear the big ten commish gloating. I do agree with Cees, I'm glad it's Auburn, not UF! BTW, Stephen, how's the BBT? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Gatorrrrrr <gatorrr...@gmail.com> Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:36:09 -0500 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com<gatortalk@googlegroups.com> ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING Exactly. "if". Woody (via iPhone) On Nov 18, 2010, at 3:26 PM, Ed Williamson <bucksho...@hotmail.com> wrote: It doesn't matter if Cam did it personally or not, if his Dad or a "handler" or Agent represented his "interests, and Auburn provided payments or illegal inducements to get him to enroll, they all will be culpable. Auburn stands to lose the most. The worst that will happen to Cam is that he will be a 1st round draft choice in this years draft and an instant millionaire. Eddie Williamson On 11/18/2010 3:02 PM, Jay Cicone wrote: I don’t think it matters what Cam did. If his father solicited money, it’s a violation….I think? From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:57 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING yes. The FBI is investigating. Yes.. the NCAA is investigating. But we dont know that they have found anything criminal or corrupt yet. And youll excuse me for saying.. Fla was once also accused and charged with just as scandalous of behavior... does that mean UF is corrupt? Does that mean Bama is corrupt after their incident? The answer is no obviously... but lets not jump to conclusions about Cam or Auburn till we know for sure. There are no facts (so far) that Cam has done anything wrong. Woody On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Stephen Manuel <srman...@bellsouth.net> wrote: What do you mean no facts ?? We know that MSU alleged that they were approached by people stating they represented Cam Newton and wanted money for him to sign with MSU. This has been verified by numerous people. We know the FBI is involved and have questioned MSU representatives. We know that Auburn has a long and distinguished history of cheating. We know that Bobby Lowder and other AU boosters have corrupted the AU program for a long time. We know that Lowder’s Bank went under. We know that Auburn Boosters have been arrested for bribing Politicians. We know that the FBI has wiretapped numerous phones in the investigation of Lowder and other AU boosters over Bank and Gambling issues. I’ve followed and been involved in recruiting for over 25 years, only the most diehard Auburn Fan would not believe they are in deep doo doo. Does anyone honestly believe that MSU was told it will take 100-180K to get Cam Newton and all of a sudden he signs with Auburn for Free ?? The one thing that will absolutely kill Auburn is if the FBI has Auburn boosters on tape discussing who/what/when and how Auburn Players are getting paid. I’m 99% sure that they do. I still believe this has the potential to be the biggest scandal in College Football History. Stephen Manuel From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:30 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING Tooo much speculation... no facts. Yes.. I agree that where there is smoke there is fire... but a) we dont know that Cam himself had anything to do with this. (yet) b) We dont know that Auburn did anything wrong (yet). No.. its not looking good IF you go by all the reports. By the way.. some of those reports have also already been refuted (including the so call confernece call with Meyer and Mullen).. and until these so called "sources" come to light... its all speculation and its all just a whole lotta whooey probably over nothing. Its like I told my Auburn friend the other day.........if Cam did nothing wrong.. he (and Auburn) has nothing to worry about. End of story. Woody On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Stephen Manuel <srman...@bellsouth.net> wrote: I don’t post very often but when something comes up that is just to big and too interesting I want to share it. I’m sure most are following the Cam Newton Saga, I’ll admit I was not that interested in the story un -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us