I was wondering what the FBI involvement was in all of this...now it's becoming
more clearer by the minute!! Stephen, I truly believe you would not have
posted any of this if you didn't have good sources. You only come up for air
when the situation warrants... :-) Welcome back..albeit, how briefly it might
be!!
Wanda
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From: Stephen Manuel
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING
I don't know how many of you followed all 4 of the links I posted, but you
should if you haven't.
This stinks to high heaven, so far 11 Alabama legislators, 1 lobbyist, and 1
HUGE Auburn booster have been indicted. The largest Bank failure in the USA in
the last year was headed by a HUGE Auburn booster, the Board of Directors of
the Bank was manned by HUGE Auburn Boosters, the FBI is investigating all of
this, plus the Cam Newton Situation.
The Auburn Booster that has been indicted, was also the subject of a Murder
for Hire Investigation, plus his movements are being tracked for threatening an
FBI Agent.
Here's my prediction for Cam Newton, he will not be suspended or declared
ineligible...Auburn in poker terms is ALL IN, they could care less what the
NCAA does to them so long as they beat Alabama, win the SEC and play for a NC.
Oliver, the BBT is a distant memory of tailgates gone by.
Stephen
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From: "oli...@bobparks.com" <oli...@bobparks.com>
To: Gator Talk <gatortalk@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thu, November 18, 2010 4:29:59 PM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING
I'm afraid Stephen is correct. It isn't if, it's how bad is it?
Stephen, you're also correct that it's going to be very big!
This isn't going to be good for college football. Nor, is it going to be good
for SECfootball. I can already hear the big ten commish gloating.
I do agree with Cees, I'm glad it's Auburn, not UF!
BTW, Stephen, how's the BBT?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From: Gatorrrrrr <gatorrr...@gmail.com>
Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:36:09 -0500
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com<gatortalk@googlegroups.com>
ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING
Exactly. "if".
Woody (via iPhone)
On Nov 18, 2010, at 3:26 PM, Ed Williamson <bucksho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
It doesn't matter if Cam did it personally or not, if his Dad or a
"handler" or Agent represented his "interests, and Auburn provided payments or
illegal inducements to get him to enroll, they all will be culpable. Auburn
stands to lose the most. The worst that will happen to Cam is that he will be
a 1st round draft choice in this years draft and an instant millionaire.
Eddie Williamson
On 11/18/2010 3:02 PM, Jay Cicone wrote:
I don’t think it matters what Cam did. If his father solicited money,
it’s a violation….I think?
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Woody
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:57 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING
yes. The FBI is investigating.
Yes.. the NCAA is investigating.
But we dont know that they have found anything criminal or corrupt yet.
And youll excuse me for saying.. Fla was once also accused and charged with
just as scandalous of behavior... does that mean UF is corrupt? Does that mean
Bama is corrupt after their incident? The answer is no obviously... but lets
not jump to conclusions about Cam or Auburn till we know for sure.
There are no facts (so far) that Cam has done anything wrong.
Woody
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Stephen Manuel <srman...@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
What do you mean no facts ??
We know that MSU alleged that they were approached by people stating they
represented Cam Newton and wanted money for him to sign with MSU. This has been
verified by numerous people.
We know the FBI is involved and have questioned MSU representatives.
We know that Auburn has a long and distinguished history of cheating.
We know that Bobby Lowder and other AU boosters have corrupted the AU
program for a long time.
We know that Lowder’s Bank went under.
We know that Auburn Boosters have been arrested for bribing Politicians.
We know that the FBI has wiretapped numerous phones in the investigation
of Lowder and other AU boosters over Bank and Gambling issues.
I’ve followed and been involved in recruiting for over 25 years, only
the most diehard Auburn Fan would not believe they are in deep doo doo.
Does anyone honestly believe that MSU was told it will take 100-180K to
get Cam Newton and all of a sudden he signs with Auburn for Free ??
The one thing that will absolutely kill Auburn is if the FBI has Auburn
boosters on tape discussing who/what/when and how Auburn Players are getting
paid.
I’m 99% sure that they do.
I still believe this has the potential to be the biggest scandal in
College Football History.
Stephen Manuel
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Woody
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:30 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING
Tooo much speculation... no facts. Yes.. I agree that where there is
smoke there is fire... but a) we dont know that Cam himself had anything to do
with this. (yet) b) We dont know that Auburn did anything wrong (yet).
No.. its not looking good IF you go by all the reports. By the way..
some of those reports have also already been refuted (including the so call
confernece call with Meyer and Mullen).. and until these so called "sources"
come to light... its all speculation and its all just a whole lotta whooey
probably over nothing.
Its like I told my Auburn friend the other day.........if Cam did nothing
wrong.. he (and Auburn) has nothing to worry about. End of story.
Woody
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Stephen Manuel <srman...@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
I don’t post very often but when something comes up that is just to big
and too interesting I want to share it.
I’m sure most are following the Cam Newton Saga, I’ll admit I was not
that interested in the story un
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