The New Year’s Day ride was postponed due to HEAVY rain and flooding. It was 
also cold, but I was prepared for that. Naturally, I watched the game.

Randy



From: Arthur Polhill 
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 5:50 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Well... on one hand...

How did that New Year's Day ride while NOT watching the Gator/Penn St game work 
out?  Weather MUST have played a role.

BTW, Randy, Paula and I will be in the Charlotte airport until 8 pm.  Come over 
and have dinner with us at "A Taste of Charlotte."
 
A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 



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From: Shane Ford <goufgat...@bellsouth.net>
To: "gatortalk@googlegroups.com" <gatortalk@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 11:04:51 AM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Well... on one hand...


Oliver, I don't know about that? I'm sure Randy rode in sunny weather, rainy 
weather, and cold weather. I think that qualifies him for...  "In all kinds of 
weather".  ;-)


Shane Ford
Sent from my iPhone 
Go Gators!  &  Skol Vikes!

On Jan 5, 2011, at 6:36 AM, oli...@bobparks.com wrote:


  I'm not sure this qualifies for "In all kinds of weather."

  Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


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  From: "Randy Lyons" <gatorspo...@epbfi.com> 
  Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
  Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 06:58:38 -0500
  To: <gatortalk@googlegroups.com>
  ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Well... on one hand...

  I can testify to that, as well. Although I DVR ALL the games, in the past, 
I’ve always been insistent on watching the game live at all cost. This year, 
several times I opted to go for a bike ride during the game and I would check 
the score during stops. IF we won, then I would watch the game when I got home. 
If not, then I deleted it without watching.

  The DVR and my PDA allowed me to basically do two things at once. Also, since 
watching DVD “reruns” of gator football games never gets old to me, watching a 
game that I already knew the outcome didn’t bother me at all. The main thing 
was I didn’t waste a beautiful Saturday afternoon inside the house screaming at 
the TV. <wlEmoticon-smile[1].png>

  Randy



  From: Charlie 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:55 PM
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Well... on one hand...

  Ken I do agree this was a painful product to watch many times this year. As I 
had remarked in an earlier post this was the first time since some of the games 
in the Zook era that I actually turned off the TV and did something else during 
a couple of games. 

  Charlie


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  From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of k...@kirkley.net
  Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:22 PM
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Well... on one hand...


  I would tend to agree that a coach wouldn't lose games to prove a point, but 
when we continue to move sideline to sideline all year and never developed a 
downfield threat, what is the answer.  All year long we heard Urban and Coach 
Addazi (no O allowed), talk about how they wanted to get the ball to the 
perimeter and use our speed.  Guess what?  Everyone has speed!  When you watch 
Penn St. receivers beating our corners down the sideline, didn't you wonder why 
we weren't capable of that?  There is no way they have more athletic WRs or CBs.

  There were things they could have done this year that would have eased the 
pain.  They could have really modified the offense like in 2006, they could 
have said thanks Johnny, but this isn't working and played Burton or Reed all 
year.  The crap they did play was embarassing and quite frankly some of the 
worst football I have ever seen.  In fact, if this team had played the 1979 
Gators, I bet they would have been 1-9-1.


  Ken K
  MNGator

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    Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Well... on one hand...
    From: Stephen Manuel <srman...@bellsouth.net>
    Date: Tue, January 04, 2011 5:06 pm
    To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com


    I just don't buy the notion that Urban Meyer or any coach for that matter 
has such a big ego that they would lose 5 games just to prove a point. 

    Let me be fair to Mike Gillislee, IMO he can be a serviceable SEC RB, 
contribute to winning games, but will never be a feature #1 RB that gets the 
majority of the carries and someone who the other team has to game plan for, he 
is in the mold of Kestan Moore, solid but never great. 
     
    Stephen Manuel




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    From: "k...@kirkley.net" <k...@kirkley.net>
    To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
    Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 5:02:44 PM
    Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Well... on one hand...


    Interesting stats.  One thing is Gillislee's carries tended to come late in 
a game, that could attribute to his high per carry average.  I am not saying 
that Mike is an All American RB, just that we don't know because too many 
people were touching the ball because they are either invested in the program 
and/or might break a 70 yard run.  Yes, Urban has won a lot of games and 
championships, but like other coaches we know, he has a huge ego and will prove 
his system works, even if it means 5 losses...

    I mean, look at 2006, yes the defense was much better that year, but Urban 
and crew took their spread offense and adapted it to Leak's capabilities.  We 
didn't do that this year.


    Ken Kirkley



      -------- Original Message --------
      Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Well... on one hand...
      From: John Vega <zebu...@gate.net>
      Date: Tue, January 04, 2011 3:27 pm
      To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com



      On Jan 4, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Stephen Manuel wrote:


        I have theory about RB’s, barring injury, a truly great RB will be 
great right away, if they take 2-3 years to develop they might be above average 
but never great. I don’t think coaching can teach Emmitt Smith how to run or 
any of the other great RB’s in UF history, I can’t think of many that were 
great after 2-3 years, most were great or very, very good right away….I believe 
that holds for any offensive system the RB might be in.

      My gut tells me that this is right.

      We all knew Emmitt was the real deal following his second game as a true 
freshman.

      We knew that Errict was not Emmitt, but was a worthy successor.

      My brain looks up statistics.

      UF  Career Rushing Leader: Yards per Carry

      min: 300 attempts: Eli Williams (6.4)
      min: 400 attempts: Tony Green (5.8)

      Well, that wasn't what I expected.

      Let's look at notable Freshmen:

      James Jones: 4.4
      Neal Anderson: 5.2
      Emmitt Smith: 5.9
      Errict Rhett: 5.7

      Interestingly, those were the best single year averages for either Errict 
or Emmitt.

      Gillislee yards per carry: 5.6

      Hmm. My gut doesn't even think he is in the same sentence as the Gator 
legends. My brain wonders why he didn't get more carries.

      -Zeb
      -- 
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    1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
    2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
    2008 National Football Champions | 
    Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
    Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us 
  -- 
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  1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
  2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
  2008 National Football Champions | 
  Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
  Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- 
  GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
  1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
  2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
  2008 National Football Champions | 
  Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
  Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
  -- 
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  1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
  2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
  2008 National Football Champions | 
  Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
  Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- 
  GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
  1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
  2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
  2008 National Football Champions | 
  Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
  Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

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2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
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