you could council outsiders in productive ways of working with wikipedia. but instead we have repeated use of technical tools to deal with people problems.
so no - no validation from me. rest assured , There will be consequences for the bitey behavior. On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 7:04 PM V C <[email protected]> wrote: > We have declared all multiple accounts of people brought in with no COI > only to be accused of socking. Is there a “correct” way to handle this? > > HTTPS://viki.wiki > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: V C <[email protected]> > Date: Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 6:53 PM > Subject: Fwd: Rambling Rambler userspace harrassment, edit warring, > hounding, suppression of women's achievements on wikipedia > To: <[email protected]> > > > Edit warring affecting women artists > > > victoria campbell <http://victoriacampbell.io> > +12108975814 > > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: V C <[email protected]> > Date: Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 6:49 PM > Subject: Rambling Rambler userspace harrassment, edit warring, hounding, > suppression of women's achievements on wikipedia > To: <[email protected]> > > > Can anyone give advice on this? I am writing from a gallery trying to > update pages with contributions from recent scholarship and the other > editors are SPA's with good intent but new. We have faced serious hounding, > harassment, etc, and any attempt to declare COI or SPA is subject to > predictive policing of edits, not quality of content or sources. > > Thank you, > > VC > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents > > This user has blanked out their talk page history which reveals repeated > persistent assumption of bad faith, repeated arbitrary or unmotivated > removal of any content without appropriate discussion or providing > explanation, filing incident reports intended to marginalize or ostracize, > stonewalling and the abuse of editor tools or other forms of algorithmic > governance to prevent deletion discussions or consensus. > > User is hounding expert editors with "evidence" as to canvassing, > sockpuppetry, etc, while masquerading as an administrator. This user is not > an administrator. > > Diff comparison exhibits the usual mistakes of a new editor and traces of > a clean start but no evidence of bad faith contribs from an undesired > fidelity > <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=An_undesired_fidelity&action=edit&redlink=1> > > A call to improve pages related to Marcel Duchamp and his peers was > broadcast over art world mailing list with links to diffs. No specific > instruction to promote a certain point of view but the need to ensure > legacy sources already cited in article was emphasized. Materials (like > images) sourced from toutfait don't give proper attn to the scholarship > they are sourced from; this is in breach of fair use of these resources for > educational purposes. If Wikipedia wants to suppress recent scholarship, > they can pay royalties -- but I'm not the person they would be dealing with > to do so because I'm actually not affiliated beyond the art world with any > of these subjects, alive or dead. > > I have checked Wikipedia policy and this does not seem to be in violation > of rules, might be better to host an edit-a-thon than pull in new editors > but otherwise in the range of acceptable behavior on Wikipedia. > > Cloaked redirect to avoid discussion to delete > <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spiritual_America&action=history> > despite > this affecting female-founded art gallery with notability for mounting > first presentation of artwork by Richard Prince > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Prince>; page erases women's > contributions to redirect to RP with a focus on illicit content rather than > historical exhibitions by well known artists of the Pictures Generation > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pictures_Generation>. Ownership behavior. > > Rhonda Roland Shearer > <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rhonda_Roland_Shearer&oldid=1316322946> > now > features unsourced lede, suppression of content, damage to context for > appreciation for 'womens work' > <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rhonda_Roland_Shearer&oldid=1317112338> > ; Rambling Rambler > <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rambling_Rambler&action=edit&redlink=1> > is > now calling for protected status of page after demonstrating ownership > behavior > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ownership_of_content#Examples_of_ownership_behavior> > with > no evidence of actual abuse wrt SPA <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPA>'s > or indication that updates to these pages was excessively promotional, > unbalanced > > this edit provides only empirical object data for this readymade > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Hat_Rack_(Duchamp)>, but drafted > without concern for this work as currently part of an educational effort on > the part of many editors > > In advance of the broken arm > <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=In_Advance_of_the_Broken_Arm&oldid=1316733103> > now > has a confusing photograph with questionable copyright: how is it a digital > rendering and also a photograph (with camera data)?? confusing as to how > this is an "ordinary manufactured object" > > LHOOQ > <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=L.H.O.O.Q.&oldid=1316838120> has > had its version history removed despite the size of the object referenced > in article is obviously too big to be a found postcard and so watered > down to previous version <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L.H.O.O.Q.> > > This is but a selection of the biased, false, inaccurate or inappropriate > content, or hindering, impeding or otherwise hampering the creation (and/or > maintenance) of content that seems to be a pattern of behavior for Rambling > Rambler > <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rambling_Rambler&action=edit&redlink=1> > . > > Asking for audit of sock accounts & quality of contributions be weighted > wrt pattern of revert warring on RRS page since July/August and lots of > hostility when "socks" are asked to disclose COI's. Unclear how a COI can > exist at the same time as copyright violations: either socks are working > for ppl that would give them permission to use pics for promotional > purposes, or pics are being used w/o permission and therefore no COI. > > Please pick one and consider the impact of these changes on the state of > the field and for the experience of new editors on wikipedia. — Preceding > unsigned <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures> comment > added by Alyssadavisgallery > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alyssadavisgallery> (talk > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Alyssadavisgallery#top> • > contribs > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Alyssadavisgallery>) > 22:14, > 16 October 2025 (UTC) > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#c-Alyssadavisgallery-20251016221400-Rambling_Rambler_userspace_harrassment,_edit_warring,_hounding,_suppression_of_w> > Without comment as to the above complaint, I want to note that slightly > earlier I filed a sockpuppet investigation related to OP's account: > Wikipedia:Sockpuppet > investigations/An undesired fidelity > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/An_undesired_fidelity>. > — *rsjaffe* <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rsjaffe> 🗣️ > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rsjaffe> 22:22, 16 October 2025 > (UTC) > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#c-Rsjaffe-20251016222200-Alyssadavisgallery-20251016221400> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Clean_start all have the right to > clean start but userspace harrassment, hounding and abuse of consensus are > universally against conduct. I am getting involved because my IP is used > for multiple purposes by multiple people and am not connected to other > people trying to improve pages on the subject matter. Alyssadavisgallery > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alyssadavisgallery> (talk > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Alyssadavisgallery>) 22:25, 16 > October 2025 (UTC) > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#c-Alyssadavisgallery-20251016222500-Rsjaffe-20251016222200>You > were blocked, so, no, you do not, in fact, have the right to a clean start. > Any uninvolved administrator should feel free to close this nonsense > immediately. See User:An undesired fidelity > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:An_undesired_fidelity>. *Bgsu98* > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bgsu98> (Talk) > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bgsu98> 22:30, 16 October 2025 > (UTC) > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#c-Bgsu98-20251016223000-Alyssadavisgallery-20251016222500> > > > > > victoria campbell <http://victoriacampbell.io> > +12108975814 > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s
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