I’m not sure what you mean by “ you could council outsiders in productive ways of working with wikipedia.” They would just be accused of socking if they worked on her page.
HTTPS://viki.wiki On Fri, Oct 17, 2025 at 8:27 AM J Hayes <[email protected]> wrote: > you could council outsiders in productive ways of working with wikipedia. > but instead we have repeated use of technical tools to deal with people > problems. > > so no - no validation from me. rest assured , There will be > consequences for the bitey behavior. > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 7:04 PM V C <[email protected]> wrote: > >> We have declared all multiple accounts of people brought in with no COI >> only to be accused of socking. Is there a “correct” way to handle this? >> >> HTTPS://viki.wiki >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: V C <[email protected]> >> Date: Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 6:53 PM >> Subject: Fwd: Rambling Rambler userspace harrassment, edit warring, >> hounding, suppression of women's achievements on wikipedia >> To: <[email protected]> >> >> >> Edit warring affecting women artists >> >> >> victoria campbell <http://victoriacampbell.io> >> +12108975814 >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: V C <[email protected]> >> Date: Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 6:49 PM >> Subject: Rambling Rambler userspace harrassment, edit warring, hounding, >> suppression of women's achievements on wikipedia >> To: <[email protected]> >> >> >> Can anyone give advice on this? I am writing from a gallery trying to >> update pages with contributions from recent scholarship and the other >> editors are SPA's with good intent but new. We have faced serious hounding, >> harassment, etc, and any attempt to declare COI or SPA is subject to >> predictive policing of edits, not quality of content or sources. >> >> Thank you, >> >> VC >> >> >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents >> >> This user has blanked out their talk page history which reveals repeated >> persistent assumption of bad faith, repeated arbitrary or unmotivated >> removal of any content without appropriate discussion or providing >> explanation, filing incident reports intended to marginalize or ostracize, >> stonewalling and the abuse of editor tools or other forms of algorithmic >> governance to prevent deletion discussions or consensus. >> >> User is hounding expert editors with "evidence" as to canvassing, >> sockpuppetry, etc, while masquerading as an administrator. This user is not >> an administrator. >> >> Diff comparison exhibits the usual mistakes of a new editor and traces of >> a clean start but no evidence of bad faith contribs from an undesired >> fidelity >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=An_undesired_fidelity&action=edit&redlink=1> >> >> A call to improve pages related to Marcel Duchamp and his peers was >> broadcast over art world mailing list with links to diffs. No specific >> instruction to promote a certain point of view but the need to ensure >> legacy sources already cited in article was emphasized. Materials (like >> images) sourced from toutfait don't give proper attn to the scholarship >> they are sourced from; this is in breach of fair use of these resources for >> educational purposes. If Wikipedia wants to suppress recent scholarship, >> they can pay royalties -- but I'm not the person they would be dealing with >> to do so because I'm actually not affiliated beyond the art world with any >> of these subjects, alive or dead. >> >> I have checked Wikipedia policy and this does not seem to be in violation >> of rules, might be better to host an edit-a-thon than pull in new editors >> but otherwise in the range of acceptable behavior on Wikipedia. >> >> Cloaked redirect to avoid discussion to delete >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spiritual_America&action=history> >> despite >> this affecting female-founded art gallery with notability for mounting >> first presentation of artwork by Richard Prince >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Prince>; page erases women's >> contributions to redirect to RP with a focus on illicit content rather than >> historical exhibitions by well known artists of the Pictures Generation >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pictures_Generation>. Ownership behavior. >> >> Rhonda Roland Shearer >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rhonda_Roland_Shearer&oldid=1316322946> >> now >> features unsourced lede, suppression of content, damage to context for >> appreciation for 'womens work' >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rhonda_Roland_Shearer&oldid=1317112338> >> ; Rambling Rambler >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rambling_Rambler&action=edit&redlink=1> >> is >> now calling for protected status of page after demonstrating ownership >> behavior >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ownership_of_content#Examples_of_ownership_behavior> >> with >> no evidence of actual abuse wrt SPA <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPA>'s >> or indication that updates to these pages was excessively promotional, >> unbalanced >> >> this edit provides only empirical object data for this readymade >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Hat_Rack_(Duchamp)>, but drafted >> without concern for this work as currently part of an educational effort on >> the part of many editors >> >> In advance of the broken arm >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=In_Advance_of_the_Broken_Arm&oldid=1316733103> >> now >> has a confusing photograph with questionable copyright: how is it a digital >> rendering and also a photograph (with camera data)?? confusing as to how >> this is an "ordinary manufactured object" >> >> LHOOQ >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=L.H.O.O.Q.&oldid=1316838120> has >> had its version history removed despite the size of the object referenced >> in article is obviously too big to be a found postcard and so watered >> down to previous version <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L.H.O.O.Q.> >> >> This is but a selection of the biased, false, inaccurate or inappropriate >> content, or hindering, impeding or otherwise hampering the creation (and/or >> maintenance) of content that seems to be a pattern of behavior for Rambling >> Rambler >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rambling_Rambler&action=edit&redlink=1> >> . >> >> Asking for audit of sock accounts & quality of contributions be weighted >> wrt pattern of revert warring on RRS page since July/August and lots of >> hostility when "socks" are asked to disclose COI's. Unclear how a COI can >> exist at the same time as copyright violations: either socks are working >> for ppl that would give them permission to use pics for promotional >> purposes, or pics are being used w/o permission and therefore no COI. >> >> Please pick one and consider the impact of these changes on the state of >> the field and for the experience of new editors on wikipedia. >> — Preceding unsigned <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures> >> comment >> added by Alyssadavisgallery >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alyssadavisgallery> (talk >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Alyssadavisgallery#top> • >> contribs >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Alyssadavisgallery> >> ) 22:14, 16 October 2025 (UTC) >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#c-Alyssadavisgallery-20251016221400-Rambling_Rambler_userspace_harrassment,_edit_warring,_hounding,_suppression_of_w> >> Without comment as to the above complaint, I want to note that slightly >> earlier I filed a sockpuppet investigation related to OP's account: >> Wikipedia:Sockpuppet >> investigations/An undesired fidelity >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/An_undesired_fidelity>. >> — *rsjaffe* <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rsjaffe> 🗣️ >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rsjaffe> 22:22, 16 October 2025 >> (UTC) >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#c-Rsjaffe-20251016222200-Alyssadavisgallery-20251016221400> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Clean_start all have the right >> to clean start but userspace harrassment, hounding and abuse of consensus >> are universally against conduct. I am getting involved because my IP is >> used for multiple purposes by multiple people and am not connected to other >> people trying to improve pages on the subject matter. Alyssadavisgallery >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alyssadavisgallery> (talk >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Alyssadavisgallery>) 22:25, 16 >> October 2025 (UTC) >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#c-Alyssadavisgallery-20251016222500-Rsjaffe-20251016222200>You >> were blocked, so, no, you do not, in fact, have the right to a clean start. >> Any uninvolved administrator should feel free to close this nonsense >> immediately. See User:An undesired fidelity >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:An_undesired_fidelity>. *Bgsu98* >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bgsu98> (Talk) >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bgsu98> 22:30, 16 October 2025 >> (UTC) >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#c-Bgsu98-20251016223000-Alyssadavisgallery-20251016222500> >> >> >> >> >> victoria campbell <http://victoriacampbell.io> >> +12108975814 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list -- [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >> visit: >> %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/gendergap.lists.wikimedia.org/
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