I'd be careful with this line of thinking.  We've heard from
perhaps 4 jakarta-commons folks on this thread, there are 70 some
committers listed in the avail file for jaakrta-commons.

I for one am not sure that introducing "functional" or other sorts of
groupings is necessarily solving a problem that jakarta-commons really
has.  There are mechanisms by which this could happen within
jakarta-commons, including a component's committers deciding to split
their mailing lists off from commons-dev/commons-user (as has happened
with httpclient) or to move out of jakarta-commons entirely (as has
happened with cactus), and yet incidents of this happening are extremely
rare (these two cases cover it IIRC).  It does not seem that the
jakarta-commons community is clamoring for finer subdivisions.

On a broader note, I'd strongly recommend that this group make an effort
to engage the larger jakarta-commons community sooner rather than later.
Coming to j-c with a pre-defined plan of "here's where your code and
community is going to be placed within apache-commons" isn't going to be
any more welcome (or effective) now than the announcement made a year or
so ago stating "the board has created apache-commons to replace
jakarta-commons".  Jakarta-Commons is a mature, diverse and successful
project.  It would be a mistake to believe apache-commons has nothing to
learn from it.

On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:

> The impression that I've gotten from the Jakarta Commons folks is that they
> are not willing to even consider moving until we have the groupings in
> place and to their liking.
>
> Ideally, yes, I'd prefer to wait, but I think that they won't consider
> moving to the ASF Commons until we have groupings that they find acceptable.
>
> If I've misunderstood the messages, my apologies.  -- justin

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