On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 10:20:46PM +0000, robert burrell donkin wrote:
>...
> (i can't speak for other people but) in my case, if i'm going to be 
> able to talk people around, i think that i need something like groups 
> to make them feel at home.

Agreed. We can always propose, and the arriving community can suggest
alternatives if they have a different idea.

> i'm also not convinced that the good folks here are really ready for 
> the full, hard code jakarta-commons experience just yet. i'd like to 
> try to put some ideas in place that would allow a gradual movement 
> rather than a stampede.

I don't think anybody wants that, and I doubt that we'd see a stampede
anyways. It isn't like A-C has a *HUGE* benefit over J-C such that
everybody, unquestionably, wants to move over. I think it would remain as
a trickle.

>...
> my first two candidates are commons-maths (there are very compelling 
> arguments in favour of making this move ASAP) and a regexp group for 
> jakarta-oro/jakarta-regex.

Cool.

> if i can be sure that they'd find a good home at apache-commons, i'd be 
> willing to do what i can to help this happen but i'd need to be clear 
> exactly what the apache commons pmc would require (from their 
> perspective).
> 
> some guidance as to procedures would be a good start.

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