On 7 Nov 2003, at 23:59, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
--On Friday, November 07, 2003 15:11:09 -0800 Greg Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't even think we should worry about the topical groupings *until* we
get components "on the way".
The impression that I've gotten from the Jakarta Commons folks is that they are not willing to even consider moving until we have the groupings in place and to their liking.
Ideally, yes, I'd prefer to wait, but I think that they won't consider moving to the ASF Commons until we have groupings that they find acceptable.
If I've misunderstood the messages, my apologies. -- justin
(i can't speak for other people but) in my case, if i'm going to be able to talk people around, i think that i need something like groups to make them feel at home.
i'm also not convinced that the good folks here are really ready for the full, hard code jakarta-commons experience just yet. i'd like to try to put some ideas in place that would allow a gradual movement rather than a stampede. jakarta is a land of *very* high volume mailing lists. (i've spent all weekend transferring my mail to a local IMAP server on a separate machine to help handle the quantity.)
my first two candidates are commons-maths (there are very compelling arguments in favour of making this move ASAP) and a regexp group for jakarta-oro/jakarta-regex.
if i can be sure that they'd find a good home at apache-commons, i'd be willing to do what i can to help this happen but i'd need to be clear exactly what the apache commons pmc would require (from their perspective).
some guidance as to procedures would be a good start. (IMHO it's better to have some kind of procedure and improve on it than start huge procedural arguments half through a move. i'm sure that once products are in here, the pmc will be able to sort out any little things they don't like.)
- robert
