On Monday, November 10, 2003, at 03:19 PM, Greg Stein wrote:

On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 11:43:51AM -0800, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
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The power to dictate for themselves what the project should be doing and
its direction. I believe the Jakarta PMC does not do a sufficient job of
oversight (if any at all). Most of the PMC responsibilities has been
devolved to the committers, but without the correct organizational
structure in place as mandated by the ASF bylaws. Does the board (and,
indirectly, membership) have any reports on what J-C is doing?

In a word: no

I want to argue about this, but I also want to be clear about one thing - does the board require reports from every subpart of a project? I'm distinguishing between the notion that the PCM is *responsible* for all subparts versus required to *report* on all subparts. I won't argue that we could do a better job as a PMC in Jakarta, and I'm doing what I can now that I have more time to contribute to help there.


But if I went and looked at the archives of board reports, would I see discussions of 'docs' and 'flood' every month?

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Geir Magnusson Jr                                   203-247-1713(m)
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