just as a Tally we have 6+1's (andy.. is yours binding?? if so 7) and 3 -1's.
so according to the votes so far we are releasing.. but according to our bylaws.. we need to wait 7 days for everyone to chime in. --I On May 5, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > On May 4, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Jean-Daniel Cryans wrote: > >> Non-biding -1. >> >> I did download it and checked it out, but when I look at the >> documentation I see it says "Hadoop 0.20 documentation" in the tab on >> top. From what I can tell this isn't the branch 0.20 so I think it's >> an error and from a user point of view this looks more like something >> I would call 0.22 (although yes I understand this is 0.20 +security >> +whatever). >> >> Why would a single company push so hard to go against the "normal" >> release process just for "the benefit of putting our work in the hands >> of all hadoop users" is beyond me. It's not like people were begging >> on the mailing lists to be able to get their hands on such a release >> to the point where an emergency point release including tons of new >> features is needed. >> >> So to me the more logical reason would be monetary gains, that I would >> understand better from a for-profit company. But then why go through >> the hurdles of having such an ASF release when Y! isn't even selling >> anything remotely related to Hadoop services? And why now? >> >> But then there's this spinoff thing and it suddenly makes a lot more sense. >> >> E14 said earlier that "That is how apache works." >> >> I would say yes, maybe this is how it works, but I'm not sure I want >> to see it working like _that_. The ASF shouldn't be the vehicle for a >> single (future) company's wishes. > > The ASF is a vehicle for whomever wishes to collaborate on a > given project. Collaboration means helping do the work. Those > who do the work may do so for whatever reasons that they think > are good, whether it is because they feel like being charitable > today, they get paid a salary and the big boss said "work on > this part", or because they just have an itch worth scratching. > > Apache does not care why people choose to collaborate or > how they choose to apply their own intellectual efforts. We > welcome all forms of contribution under the terms of our license. > > What we do require is a certain amount of civility regarding > our voting procedures and an emphasis on individual responsibility > for your votes. Anyone caught *voting* a particular way just > because the boss says so will be dealt with severely. Votes > are how we do quality control and make decisions, and no other > company can be allowed to make decisions for our non-profit. > > ....Roy
