On 21/08/2009, Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>  > From: sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
>  > To: general@incubator.apache.org
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> > Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:15:44 AM
>  > Subject: Re: Making up policy on the fly
>  >
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> > On 21/08/2009, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>  > > ----- Original Message ----
>  > >
>  > >  > From: ant elder
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> > >  > To: general@incubator.apache.org
>  > >
>  > > > Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 2:32:39 AM
>  > >  > Subject: Re: Making up policy on the fly
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > > Several improvements have been suggested on this thread so far, the
>  > >  > two mains ones are:
>  > >  >
>  > >  > - hold the release votes on the poddling mailing lists not general@
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > At one point or another I thought that might be an improvement.  Having
>  > >  seen how many podling releases fail to pass the vote on 
> gene...@incubator
>  > >  has me thinking otherwise.  Until the gene...@incubator votes are little
>  > >  more than rubber stamps of the votes conducted on the podling's dev 
> list, I
>  > >  wouldn't be in favor of such a change.
>  > >
>  >
>  > The votes that count for a release are IPMC member votes; seems to me
>  > that the vote must be put to the whole IPMC, even if most of them
>  > don't vote. If the vote were only on the podling list, then only IPMC
>  > members who happened to be on the list would see the vote - the other
>  > IPMC members would effectively be disenfranchised.
>  >
>  > The IPMC might as well be disbanded at that point.
>
>
> Well that's the way things are done in other TLPs with subprojects: the
>  vote on the subproject's candidates is carried out on the subproject's dev
>  list.

AFAIK in Jakarta, actual release votes are always sent to both the dev
list and the general list.

Most of the actual votes tend to be on the dev list, but the general
list sometimes gets involved, and the result will always be posted to
both.

>  But I can see your point, especially because these podlings really
>  don't map to subprojects.
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