I have a couple of questions: Could you be more specific about the problems faced by the Subversion Corporation in its three years of existence and the reasons for merging with the ASF? Do you anticipate whether any of these will cause issues/problems at the ASF?
This *feels* like a much bigger project than the usual incubating project - do you have any idea what the impact on ASF infrastructure and resources is going to be in both the short and long term? Besides code and community are there any other assets or resources that the Subversion Corporation intends to transfer to the ASF? Presumably the Subversion Corporation will be wound up if/when it successfully graduates from incubation? Niall On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote: > Subversion is a version control system. You probably know it well as > it is the version control system employed by the Apache Software > Foundation. > > The Subversion project would like to join the Apache Software > Foundation to remove the overhead of having to run its own > corporation. The Subversion project is already run quite like an > Apache project, and already counts a number of ASF Members amongst > its committers. > > Work on Subversion was originally started at CollabNet; Karl Fogel > was hired in January 2000. Jim Blandy, at RedHat, already had an > initial design for the storage system, which was incorporated into the > FS design. In February Brian Behlendorf invited Greg Stein to > contribute his WebDAV experience to Subversion. Ben Colins-Sussman > was hired in April 2000 to work on the project. In that same month > the first "all hands" meeting was held, where a number of "interested > people" came together to talk about the project. > > Subversion was run as an open source project since the early days. > Now, more than nine years later, it retains a healthy community, > and has a good number of committers. In the life span of Subversion, > several committers have switched employers and have maintained involvement. > The committership is diverse, both geographically as well as in terms of > employment. > > The equivalent of the PMC consists of all the full committers to the > Subversion project (currently around 55 people). The community uses the > voting process also used at the ASF. Releases are signed off by gathering > votes/digital signatures of each committer who verified the release > candidate. > > We feel the ASF and Subversion communities are very compatible, > witness the cross interest that already exists. There is both a > vibrant developer as well as a large and active user community. > Technology-wise, Subversion builds on APR, and implements two Apache > HTTP Server modules. > > Note that Subversion has a number of related projects, which are not > part of this proposal (e.g. cvs2svn, TortoiseSVN, Subclipse). > > More information on Subversion can be found at > http://www.subversion.org/ and http://subversion.tigris.org/. > > The Subversion Corporation has a license to all source code, and has > CLAs on file for nearly all it's committers. That is, we have all but > one or two full committers, and some percentage of partial committers. > > We have a number of *user-configurable* dependencies which are not > compatible with the AL: > - Neon, a HTTP client library, used by libsvn_ra_neon, is LGPL. > (An alternative HTTP client library, libsvn_ra_serf uses the Serf > library under ALv2.) > > - Qt, KDE and GNOME libraries are also under LGPL-2.1. D-Bus (which > is also used by libsvn_auth_gnome_keyring and libsvn_auth_kwallet) is > under Academic Free License 2.1 or >=GPL-2. > (This support is for integration for KDE and GNOME's authentication > providers.) > > - libintl > (This library provides translation support for systems without > a proper internationalization library.) > > - BDB > (This is used by the libsvn_fs_base system which stores its data > in BDB; an alternative repository system called fs_fs does not > have this dependency.) > > --- > Required Resources > - Mailing lists > - dev > - issues > - users > - private > - commits > - announce > - breakage (see > http://subversion.tigris.org/ds/viewForumSummary.do?dsForumId=552) > - We will work with the Infrastructure team to transfer the subscriber > listings to the new destinations. > - Subversion: > - We have not made a decision whether we prefer Subversion should be > imported into the main ASF Subversion repository or be hosted as a > separate repository to enable early testing of the repository code. We > intend to discuss this during the Incubation process before the code is > imported. It is also understood that ASF infrastructure team may be > willing to run custom pre-release Subversion server builds for the > entire ASF, so this separate repository option may not be required. > - The Subversion source code can be found at: > http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/. > - Issue tracking > - We haven't made a decision between JIRA or Bugzilla at this time and > expect this decision to be made as part of the Incubation process. Our > current issue tracking system uses Issuezilla (a fork of Bugzilla) and > we have not yet decided whether we want to import our previous issues > into the new system and will decide this in the course of the Incubation > process. > - Our current issue tracker is at > http://subversion.tigris.org/issue-tracker.html. > - Buildbot > - We currently use buildbot across a number of platforms and configurations > for automated builds and testing. Over time, we would like to migrate > these services to Apache infrastructure where appropriate. > - Our current buildbot master is at > http://buildbot.subversion.org/buildbot/ > > Note that we request these resources to be at their final locations, > not an intermediary while going through incubation. The cost of > switching twice would otherwise be significant due to the size of the > existing community. > > The Subversion team members are happy to work with and assist the ASF > Infrastructure team to enable early deployments of its release candidates if > possible. > > Initial Committers > > The list of initial committers is at > http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk/COMMITTERS. > > The initial PMC members are those listed as full committers in that > file (lines 1-74). > > Sponsors > * Champion: Greg Stein > * Nominated Mentors: Justin Erenkrantz, Greg Stein, Sander Striker, Daniel > Rall > * Sponsor: > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
