On 08/11/2010 05:19 PM, Donald Woods wrote:


On 8/11/10 1:45 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
So.  Following some advice given to me by Sam Ruby,
I'd like to start experimenting with different organizational
and procedural approaches to the projects I participate in
here.  What I want to do is to see how far I can push
the envelope on the whole notion of empowerment and
self-governance in an incubating project, following the
lessons I've learned from httpd's treatment of the subprojects
it happens to be responsible for.

The first idea should be fairly straightforward: that for
the projects I participate in (so far thrift and sis), that
the IPMC delegates to the PPMC the decision-making process
for voting in new committers: basically rolling back the clock
to May 1, 2007 on guides/ppmc.html.

How about requiring at least one mentor on the vote, so there is still
some oversight?

Having all mentors vote is good but not necessary...IMHO


The second idea is more controversial: to hold IPMC votes to
admit all significant committers to those projects to the IPMC
itself.  The purpose of this concept is to allow those who
best know the codebase to provide IPMC oversight over it,
especially as it pertains to releases.

Would still like this to be an opt-in, where any existing PMC member
interested in helping with the Incubator could request membership and be
added after 72 hours (expanding ASF member rules to apply to all PMC
members.)  For committers (non-PMC members), I'd want an existing IPMC
or PMC member nominate the person to the IPMC and require a 72hr lazy
consensus, since IPMC members are expected to mentor and teach new
podlings about the Apache way.

By PMC you mean PPMC? i am confused.


I welcome your comments, criticisms, and other feedback.
Thanks.




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