On 8/11/10 5:30 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > > On 08/11/2010 05:19 PM, Donald Woods wrote: >> >> >> On 8/11/10 1:45 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: >>> So. Following some advice given to me by Sam Ruby, >>> I'd like to start experimenting with different organizational >>> and procedural approaches to the projects I participate in >>> here. What I want to do is to see how far I can push >>> the envelope on the whole notion of empowerment and >>> self-governance in an incubating project, following the >>> lessons I've learned from httpd's treatment of the subprojects >>> it happens to be responsible for. >>> >>> The first idea should be fairly straightforward: that for >>> the projects I participate in (so far thrift and sis), that >>> the IPMC delegates to the PPMC the decision-making process >>> for voting in new committers: basically rolling back the clock >>> to May 1, 2007 on guides/ppmc.html. >> >> How about requiring at least one mentor on the vote, so there is still >> some oversight? > > Having all mentors vote is good but not necessary...IMHO > >>> >>> The second idea is more controversial: to hold IPMC votes to >>> admit all significant committers to those projects to the IPMC >>> itself. The purpose of this concept is to allow those who >>> best know the codebase to provide IPMC oversight over it, >>> especially as it pertains to releases. >> >> Would still like this to be an opt-in, where any existing PMC member >> interested in helping with the Incubator could request membership and be >> added after 72 hours (expanding ASF member rules to apply to all PMC >> members.) For committers (non-PMC members), I'd want an existing IPMC >> or PMC member nominate the person to the IPMC and require a 72hr lazy >> consensus, since IPMC members are expected to mentor and teach new >> podlings about the Apache way. > > By PMC you mean PPMC? i am confused.
Any PMC member of a TLP. The projects have obviously vetted their skills and contributions before inviting to their PMC, so the barrier to IPMC membership should be lower for them. > >>> >>> I welcome your comments, criticisms, and other feedback. >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
