On 8 December 2011 16:54, Karl Pauls <karlpa...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 5:17 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 8 December 2011 15:28, Karl Pauls <karlpa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 4:21 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On 8 December 2011 14:30, Karl Pauls <karlpa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 1:08 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On 8 December 2011 10:39, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On 8 December 2011 10:14, Karl Pauls <karlpa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> The vote on "Release ace version 0.8.1-incubator subprojects" has been >>>>>>>> running for 72h and we didn't see any more votes from IPMC members >>>>>>>> other than the 4 votes we already have from the vote on the ace dev >>>>>>>> list. Given that this release was created specifically because some >>>>>>>> issues with our last release where causing some debate on our "should >>>>>>>> we ask for graduation" vote I really would have hoped that we get some >>>>>>>> feedback on this one -- hence, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not saying this is a big factor in the lack of response, but >>>>>>> normally votes include all the relevant information in the e-mail. >>>>>>> In this case one has to go digging through another e-mail (using an >>>>>>> offsite link as well) to find the details. >>>>>>> The easier it is made for users, the more likely they are to respond. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm copying the details below in case that helps anyone else: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> =============================== >>>>>>> After our community graduation vote lead to a lengthy discussion about >>>>>>> the 0.8.0-incubator release we did, we decided to roll a new ACE >>>>>>> release, based on the original release. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the release we fix the issue that our previous source artifacts did >>>>>>> not contain a pom.xml so building them was hard. You can now download >>>>>>> a single, or all sources, and build them with a single command. Also, >>>>>>> we added an extra artifact that contains the full source code, which >>>>>>> is there for convenience in case someone wants to download all the >>>>>>> sources and start developing from there. We did that in a way that is >>>>>>> somewhat similar to Sling, but instead of using svn:externals we used >>>>>>> Maven to generate this artifact (for more see the README.txt inside >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.release.full 0.8.1-incubator) -- hence, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would like to call a vote on the following ace 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> subproject releases: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ace-pom 0.8.1-incubator org.apache.ace.client.automation >>>>>>> 0.8.1-incubator org.apache.ace.client.repository.api 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.client.repository.helper.base 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.client.repository.helper.bundle 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.client.repository.helper.configuration 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.client.repository.helper.user 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.client.repository.impl 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.client.repository.useradmin 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.configurator 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.configurator.serveruseradmin 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.configurator.useradmin.task 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.consolelogger 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.deployment.api 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.deployment.deploymentadmin 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.deployment.provider.api 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.deployment.provider.base 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.deployment.provider.filebased 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.deployment.provider.repositorybased 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.deployment.servlet 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.deployment.streamgenerator 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.deployment.task 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.discovery.api 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.discovery.property 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.discovery.upnp 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.gateway.log 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.gateway.log.store 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.httplistener 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.identification.api 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.identification.ifconfig 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.identification.property 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.launcher 0.8.1-incubator org.apache.ace.location.upnp >>>>>>> 0.8.1-incubator org.apache.ace.log 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.log.listener 0.8.1-incubator org.apache.ace.log.servlet >>>>>>> 0.8.1-incubator org.apache.ace.log.task 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.managementagent 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.nodelauncher.amazon 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.nodelauncher.api 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.nodelauncher.ui 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.obr.metadata 0.8.1-incubator org.apache.ace.obr.servlet >>>>>>> 0.8.1-incubator org.apache.ace.obr.storage 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.range.api 0.8.1-incubator org.apache.ace.release.full >>>>>>> 0.8.1-incubator org.apache.ace.repository.api 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.repository.ext 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.repository.impl 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.repository.servlet 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.repository.task 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.resourceprocessor.useradmin 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.scheduler 0.8.1-incubator org.apache.ace.scheduler.api >>>>>>> 0.8.1-incubator org.apache.ace.server.action 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.server.action.popupmessage 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.server.log.store 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.tageditor 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.target.defaults 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.target.devgateway 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.target.devserver 0.8.1-incubator org.apache.ace.util >>>>>>> 0.8.1-incubator org.apache.ace.webconsole.plugin 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> org.apache.ace.webui.vaadin 0.8.1-incubator >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Staging repositories: >>>>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheace-259/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tags: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ace/releases/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Hard work checking/downloading those, as the directory still contains >>>>>> the 0.8.0 tags. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Verify: You can download the keys used to sign the release from: >>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ace/trunk/KEYS >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Download: You can use this UNIX script to download the release and >>>>>>> verify the signatures: >>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ace/trunk/check_staged_release.sh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Usage: sh check_staged_release.sh 259 /tmp/ace-staging >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Build: Find the source-release.{zip|tar.gz} in the /tmp/ace-staging >>>>>>> and follow the README.txt. If you want to build all in one go, start >>>>>>> with: >>>>>>> /tmp/ace-staging/259/org/apache/ace/org.apache.ace.release.full/0.8.1-incubator/org.apache.ace.release.full-0.8.1-incubator.zip >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Get all source and build with one download: >>>>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheace-259/org/apache/ace/org.apache.ace.release.full/0.8.1-incubator/org.apache.ace.release.full-0.8.1-incubator.zip >>>>>> >>>>>> This does not actually contain everything in the releases/ folder >>>>>> tree; it does not contain the contents of >>>>>> >>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ace/releases/org.apache.ace.release.full-0.8.1-incubator/ >>>>> >>>>> No, it does not contain that one as it is the result of that one. If >>>>> you look at the: >>>>> >>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheace-259/org/apache/ace/org.apache.ace.release.full/0.8.1-incubator/org.apache.ace.release.full-0.8.1-incubator-source-release.zip >>>>> >>>>> source release of it then you can see that we released its source as well. >>>>> >>>>>> It does contain lots of files that don't appear to be in SVN, for >>>>>> example velocity.log and DISCLAIMER/NOTICE/LICENSE >>>>> >>>>> They are either in the tags or they are generated by maven during a >>>>> release/build. They don't have to be in svn as we don't release svn. >>>> >>>> SVN provides traceability; a random collection of source files in a >>>> zip would be very difficult to trace back to the originals. >>>> AIUI that's one reason why source releases should only contain files >>>> that are in SVN or directly derived therefrom. >>> >>> I agree, and that is the case. >>> >>>> AFAICT the velocity.log files are just noise, and could be excluded >>>> (not a blocker). >>> >>> Yes, they are. >>> >>>>> However, they are generated if you build/release what is inside svn. >>>>> >>>>>> There is also a top-level pom.xml which does not appear to be in the SVN >>>>>> tags >>>>> >>>>> Same thing, it is generated upon release based on what is in svn. In >>>>> this case, it is based on: >>>>> >>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ace/releases/org.apache.ace.release.full-0.8.1-incubator/src/main/resources/release-reactor.xml >>>>> >>>>> I think your confusion is that it is a combined source artifact along >>>>> the line of what sling is doing. We had some discussions on the >>>>> approach: >>>>> >>>>> http://apache.markmail.org/thread/4hloen52iewblpqs >>>>> >>>>> It is there for convenience in case someone wants to download all the >>>>> sources in one go and start developing from there. We did that in a >>>>> way that is somewhat similar to Sling, but instead of using >>>>> svn:externals we used Maven to generate this artifact (for more see >>>>> the README.txt inside org.apache.ace.release.full 0.8.1-incubator). >>>> >>>> [BTW, that is rather hard to read, owing to very long lines - max >>>> nearly 525 chars.] >>>> >>>> So is it possible to start with the combined zip file and produce all >>>> the artifacts that are stored in the Nexus repo? >>> >>> Yes. The only exception is the combining project as well, which is >>> part of the release (see previous mail) but not included in the >>> combined zip file it produces. >>> >>>> Or are there additional files that would need to be obtained from SVN? >>> >>> No. It is self-contained. >>> >>>> Just tried "mvn install" on the zip, and it failed with: >>>> >>>> [INFO] Building Apache ACE :: Log :: Listener >>>> [INFO] task-segment: [install] >>>> ... >>>> The system is out of resources. >>>> Consult the following stack trace for details. >>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space >>>> ... >>>> [INFO] Final Memory: 65M/314M >>>> >>>> What Maven settings are needed to build from source? >>> >>> Depends on your environment etc. For me, it builds out of the box but >>> just in case: >>> >>> export MAVEN_OPTS=-Xmx1024m >> >> That fixed it for me; perhaps should be added to README.txt. > > Yeah, that makes sense. > >> The NOTICE file seems to have gathered some unnecessary verbiage. >> >> For example: >> >>>>> >> This product includes software developed at >> The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/). >> Licensed under the Apache License 2.0. >> <<< >> >> should be just >> >>>>> >> This product includes software developed at >> The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/). >> <<< >> >> Similarly for all the other products - the license details belong in >> the LICENSE file, for example see the httpd versions: >> >> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/httpd/trunk/NOTICE >> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/httpd/trunk/LICENSE >> >> Httpd don't include 3rd party code using AL 2.0, but this can easily >> be documented by adding a list of products that use the AL 2.0 after >> the license text. >> >> It's a lot easier for end users if all the 3rd party products are >> listed in the LICENSE file. > > Yeah, that makes sense. > >> I could not find the CDDL license. > > Ups, yes, I see - the LICENSE contains the notice section of the code > under CDDL instead of the CDDL license itself (in the LICENSE see: > Jersey and JSR-250 License). Don't think this is a blocker as it is at > least saying it is licensed under CDDL this way but we need to fix > this to contain the actual CDDL license text for the next release.
Sorry, but I think the problems with the NOTICE and LICENSE file go deeper than that. For example, for xstream, the license is at: http://xstream.codehaus.org/license.html This starts: >>> Copyright (c) 2003-2006, Joe Walnes Copyright (c) 2006-2009, XStream Committers All rights reserved. Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met: Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice ... <<< However, the copy in the LICENSE file omits the first paragraph entirely. Which makes a nonsense of of the third (now second) paragraph as it references a non-existent copyright notice. The LICENSE file must contain the full license; the NOTICE file should contain whatever notice is required by the license. I think the same applies to at least one other entry in the license file (knoplerfish) In the case of dual licensed files (Jersey and JSR-250 License) the NOTICE file should clearly state which one is being used, e.g. >>:> This product includes xxx from Oracle The software is included under the CDDL License. <<< > regards, > > Karl > >>> export JAVA_HOME=<path-to-java6-sdk-home> >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> Karl >>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> >>>>> Karl >>>>> >>>>>>> Please vote to approve this release: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [ ] +1 Approve the release >>>>>>> [ ] -1 Veto the release (please provide specific comments) >>>>>> >>>>>>> =============================== >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm going to give it another 24h but if I don't see any other votes >>>>>>>> nor any request for more time (as I appreciate that it is a big >>>>>>>> release) I'm going to call this vote successful based on the 4 IPMC >>>>>>>> member votes we did already get. In that case, however, I don't want >>>>>>>> to see it debated again during graduation i.e., speak now or forever >>>>>>>> hold your peace. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Karl >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Karl Pauls <karlpa...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> This is the second release of the ace incubator project called ace >>>>>>>>> version 0.8.1-incubator subprojects releases. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For details of the release see the original vote thread: >>>>>>>>> http://markmail.org/thread/bxk47uzt7dzbajir >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We have already received 4 binding IPMC votes during the PPMC voting >>>>>>>>> below. I'd like to continue the vote on general@ now to get the IPMC >>>>>>>>> approval -- hence, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please vote to approve this release. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Karl Pauls <karlpa...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Time to call the vote on the ace version 0.8.1-incubator subprojects >>>>>>>>>> releases. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * +1 votes from Marcel Offermans***, Jean-Baptiste Onofré***, Toni >>>>>>>>>> Menzel*, Bram de Kruijff, Angelo van der Sijpt*, Carsten Ziegeler***, >>>>>>>>>> and Karl Pauls***. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * No other votes >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The vote is successful. I will approach the Incubator PMC for >>>>>>>>>> approval. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * == PPMC >>>>>>>>>> ** == IPMC >>>>>>>>>> *** == PPMC + IPMC >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Karl Pauls >>>>>>>> karlpa...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/karlpauls >>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlpauls >>>>>>>> https://profiles.google.com/karlpauls >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Karl Pauls >>>>> karlpa...@gmail.com >>>>> http://twitter.com/karlpauls >>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlpauls >>>>> https://profiles.google.com/karlpauls >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Karl Pauls >>> karlpa...@gmail.com >>> http://twitter.com/karlpauls >>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlpauls >>> https://profiles.google.com/karlpauls >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > > -- > Karl Pauls > karlpa...@gmail.com > http://twitter.com/karlpauls > http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlpauls > https://profiles.google.com/karlpauls > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
