Alan, +1 from me. Cheers, Chris
On Nov 26, 2012, at 10:32 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote: > If we decide to give the podling another chance I would prefer to give it > another six months rather than just one month. I don't think that a lot can > reasonably be accomplished in one month. I would also like to see some > milestones set in those six months. If the milestones are met or not met > then the decision at the end of six months will be less contentious. > > Thoughts? > > > Regards, > Alan > > On Nov 26, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > >> +1 to Jukka's suggestion here. The world isn't going to end if we give them >> another month, and beyond that, it will give someone besides Eric the >> opportunity >> to help cruft the plan (hopefully 2 people besides Eric, since that would >> mean >> 3 active peeps in the community). >> >> If that plan can't be achieved in a month, I'm +1 to retire. >> >> Cheers, >> Chris >> >> On Nov 26, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Alan Cabrera <l...@toolazydogs.com> wrote: >>>> Even by the PPMC's comments they obliquely acknowledge that there's not >>>> much >>>> activity and expressed an interested in simply keeping it around with the >>>> hopes >>>> that something would happen; there were no concrete ideas or plans on how >>>> to >>>> grow the community because, by their own admission, no one has the time to >>>> work much on the project. >>> >>> That lack of concrete plans is a good place to start. Anyone from the >>> community who opposes retirement should take it up on themselves to >>> provide such a concrete plan for example in time for next month's >>> report. Just like the caster of a technical veto should come up with >>> an alternative implementation. :-) >>> >>> As an example of how this can play out, see the way we asked Kitty to >>> provide such a plan [1] when some members of the community opposed the >>> idea of retirement. In Kitty nobody stood up to the task, so a few >>> months later the final decision to retire the project was a pretty >>> easy one to make. >>> >>> Another example with a different outcome is JSPWiki that had a similar >>> discussion at the beginning of the year, and actually a few members of >>> the community did start working through all the issues and have now >>> produced their first Apache release and seem to be on a path towards >>> graduation even though the project is still far below its past >>> activity. >>> >>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/smhl3cxvrgq5cf22 >>> >>> BR, >>> >>> Jukka Zitting >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
