The more the merrier! :)
Regards, Alan On Nov 26, 2012, at 11:50 PM, ant elder wrote: > Great to hear, one month seemed too short to accomplish so much. I'd be > happy to volunteer as another mentor if some fresh eyes will help. > > ...ant > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 3:32 AM, Alan Cabrera <l...@toolazydogs.com> wrote: > >> If we decide to give the podling another chance I would prefer to give it >> another six months rather than just one month. I don't think that a lot >> can reasonably be accomplished in one month. I would also like to see >> some milestones set in those six months. If the milestones are met or not >> met then the decision at the end of six months will be less contentious. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> >> Regards, >> Alan >> >> On Nov 26, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: >> >>> +1 to Jukka's suggestion here. The world isn't going to end if we give >> them >>> another month, and beyond that, it will give someone besides Eric the >> opportunity >>> to help cruft the plan (hopefully 2 people besides Eric, since that >> would mean >>> 3 active peeps in the community). >>> >>> If that plan can't be achieved in a month, I'm +1 to retire. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Chris >>> >>> On Nov 26, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Alan Cabrera <l...@toolazydogs.com> >> wrote: >>>>> Even by the PPMC's comments they obliquely acknowledge that there's >> not much >>>>> activity and expressed an interested in simply keeping it around with >> the hopes >>>>> that something would happen; there were no concrete ideas or plans on >> how to >>>>> grow the community because, by their own admission, no one has the >> time to >>>>> work much on the project. >>>> >>>> That lack of concrete plans is a good place to start. Anyone from the >>>> community who opposes retirement should take it up on themselves to >>>> provide such a concrete plan for example in time for next month's >>>> report. Just like the caster of a technical veto should come up with >>>> an alternative implementation. :-) >>>> >>>> As an example of how this can play out, see the way we asked Kitty to >>>> provide such a plan [1] when some members of the community opposed the >>>> idea of retirement. In Kitty nobody stood up to the task, so a few >>>> months later the final decision to retire the project was a pretty >>>> easy one to make. >>>> >>>> Another example with a different outcome is JSPWiki that had a similar >>>> discussion at the beginning of the year, and actually a few members of >>>> the community did start working through all the issues and have now >>>> produced their first Apache release and seem to be on a path towards >>>> graduation even though the project is still far below its past >>>> activity. >>>> >>>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/smhl3cxvrgq5cf22 >>>> >>>> BR, >>>> >>>> Jukka Zitting >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
