But the board is not responsible for any actions resulting from those reviews, the IPMC is.
Ross -----Original Message----- From: Mattmann, Chris A (3980) [mailto:chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov] Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 9:31 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Incubator report sign-off It’s not a pawning off to the board - the board is already responsible for reviewing the IPMC report which includes *all of the same detail* that the IPMC also .. reviews. Cheers, Chris -----Original Message----- From: "Alan D. Cabrera" <l...@toolazydogs.com> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org> Date: Monday, January 5, 2015 at 8:59 AM To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org> Subject: Re: Incubator report sign-off > >On Jan 5, 2015, at 8:22 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Alan D. Cabrera >><l...@toolazydogs.com> >>wrote: >>> >>>> On Dec 22, 2014, at 8:42 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <r...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> 1. get rid of IPMC altogether and move to the pTLP model >>> >>> This is effectively an IPMC reboot. I don’t really see anything >>>substantially different. >> >> At this point, I'm convinced this is the only fruitful path forward, >> the rest is a shell game with responsibility. See the other thread. >> >>>> 3. patch the current process with starting to drop the mentors from >>>> the project who don't sign off. This will essentially serve >>>> as a heartbeat for mentors (now, in my opinion it'll quickly >>>> deteriorate into mindless tick-offs -- but at least it does >>>>not harm). >>> >>> How is it that a mentor became an IPMC member and do such an >>>unethical thing such as a mindless tick-off? >> >> We're talking about human being here. The one who never ever cut >> corners in his life can cast the first stone. > >I think that you misunderstood my rhetorical question. It is my >experience/understanding that if a mentor makes an effort to review >reports/releases then this mentor is actually doing a good job at it. >It is my experience/understanding that the overwhelming problem is that >mentors simply go MIA and do nothing at all. > >I am in favor of #3 since it holds mentors accountable. #1 is simply a >washing of our hands and pawning the problem off on the board simple >because some of us are unwilling to do uncomfortable things. > > >Regards, >Alan > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > B KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKCB [ X ܚX KK[XZ[ [ \ [ ][ X ܚX P[ X ]܋ \X K ܙ B ܈Y][ۘ[ [X[ K[XZ[ [ \ [ Z[ [ X ]܋ \X K ܙ B --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
