Cory L Hubert wrote:

>       I think it's time for it as well.   Oracle, DB2, Sybase are planning on
>cashing in even bigger now.   The .com crazy is over and people are going to
>start to develop and market information rich websites and services that
>reach out to cell phones/PDA's etc.
>
>       There hasn't been much innovation going on in the Relational DB world.
>It'd be nice to see an Open Source project catch up, innovate, and
>outperform the Big Name DB vendors.
>       An Open Source java DB by a trusted Open Source Name (Apache) would allow
>anyone to have a high end database solution without being a big money making
>enterprise.
>
>       Obviously I think this is a good idea.   Why don't we create a list for
>Open Source DB's to evaluate?  Also some criteria.
>       I've already mentioned.
>
>       1. Object or Object/Relational DB.
>       2. Support for SQL/OQL
>       3. Support for the SUN JDO spec.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Duddleston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 11:58 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Project idea
>
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>
>There is a pretty good Java SQL Relational DB called Mckoi, but the darn
>thing is GPL and I have sent about 6 emails trying to get them to change the
>license to an ASL or equivalent, but I have had no luck. They won't even
>change to LGPL.
>
>hsql Database on sourceforge has a good license and works well for small
>projects, but I don't know if I would trust it for anything important.
>Hopefully it will pick up some momentum.
>
>I know Jetspeed (a Jakarta project) uses Hypersonic SQL (now hsql Database),
>or at least used it the last time I check which was a long time ago. I would
>love to see a solid Java RDBMS under a business friendly license. Maybe
>someday ;-)
>
>-david
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Tal Dayan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 5:11 PM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Project idea
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>>Does Jakarta has anything close to an embedded pure Java
>>relational data base ?
>>
>>If not, a project like that will be a great
>>addition to the Jakarta family.
>>
>>
>>Tal
>>
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Hey, maybe take a look at

http://www.lutris.com/products/projects/instantDB

They have been hinting about making it open for a
long time now, and maybe they could use some
help doing so.






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