On 5/1/02 11:41 AM, "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, 1 May 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> >> 
>> On 5/1/02 12:28 AM, "John McNally" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Well I would not be bothered if tomcat had developed a build system that
>>> it packaged as an independent entity with the idea that it might be more
>>> generally useful. Tomcat is a large project and they certainly could
>>> have had the itch. And if they promoted it occasionally what's the big
>>> deal.
>> 
>> <joke>
>> If you have ever built tomcat from source, you might wish they had a build
>> system...
>> </joke>
>> 
>> That used to be true - I don't know if it is anymore.
> 
> Actually, Tomcat *does* include a nice little build system for web apps --
> in the Application Developer's Guide.  Among other things, it sets up your
> compile class path to include everything Tomcat has in its shared
> repositories (common/lib and so on) for you.  In the HEAD branch, and in
> the 4.1.0 test release, it even includes custom Ant tasks that interact
> with the Manager webapp to install, reload, and uninstall apps
> dynamically.
> 
> The difference is that we don't badger people into using it -- their
> choice.  :-)

No, I meant for tomcat proper.  A while ago, it was a bear to build entirely
from source...

I did it once, proved I could do it, and then happily fetched the binaries
since :)
 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Struts is adding support for
>>>>> Velocity even though one of its primary reasons for being proposed with
>>>>> Turbine already existing was to limit the view to jsp exclusively.
>>>> 
>>>> I think you are mistaken - we are building a toolkit to use Velocity as the
>>>> view layer in Struts....  Struts isn't adding any support AFAIK.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Okay, I guess I could argue that developing a taglib (or something more
>>> elaborate) is outside the scope of a project around a template engine.
>> 
>> We have one of those too. :)  Lets you do wacky things like
>> 
>> <jsp:useBean id="mybean"  class="GeirBean" />
>> 
>> <body>
>>     <vel:velocity strictaccess="true">
>> 
>>          #set($mybean = $scopetool.getPageScope("mybean"))
>> 
>>          #if(true)
>>             this is true!
>>          #end
>> 
>>          <br>
>> 
>>          $mybean.string
>> 
>>          <br>
>> 
>>         #foreach($item in $mybean.array)
>>             $item <br>
>>         #end
>> 
>>     </vel:velocity>
>> </body>
>> </html>
>> 
> 
> Hey Geir, I though there weren't any scriptlets in Velocity?   :-)

:)

That's a JSP page.  And maybe the right term is "Velocilets" or something.
 

-- 
Geir Magnusson Jr.                                     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
System and Software Consulting
The obvious solutions are challenging


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