>> >> >> Don't you think JBoss' huge success has something to do with Sun's >> animosity? Every developer I know who has a say on the platform uses >> JBoss: better product, better documentation, better support, lower >> price. > > Don't read me wrong: I'm on the JBoss-side on this, in that *the > project* should be able to present itself on a JUG event. When comparing > *JBossGroup* with the ASF however (if that would be possible at all), I > partially understand Pier's reservations. This doesn't mean SunBE is > right on this, however. The fact a (pardon me) marketing lowlife > believes he can silently get away with that is once again a great > occasion to help such people see the cluetrain is arriving. >
I *would* agree if the other vendors weren't being permitted. I fail to see what compliance should have to do with it. Its a Javapolis not a J2EEpolis. >> Do you think Sun Microsystems cares one bit about the well being of >> Open Source? The fact that Sun is actively trying to scuttle a >> successful OS project, JBoss in this case, is very disturbing. > This is the point. > It is. And they will fail at it. > Agreed. > Still, when daydreaming about JBoss, I happen to compare that community > with ours. And I believe the testosteroid behaviour of its speaking > puppet might be detrimental in the end. > Ha! You mean that they donıt have enough testosterone to compete! ;-) I like Marc. He reminds me a little of someone here, but I don't think they get along so I won't say who ;-) -Andy > There's no black & white and deliberation should be made. > > </Steven> -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]