Matthew Marlowe wrote:
>A clueful sysadmin with gentoo is a far superior arrangement >provided the rate of hardware installs isn't too much. For very large >environments with 100+ boxes, I'd definitly agree with you that >gentoo has a long way to go. > > Well ... as far as I'm concerned, "clueful sysadmin" == Gentoo Certified Engineer. That's something we *can* do -- start certifying people the same way Red Hat does. For large environments with 100+ boxes, as long as they're all x86 and i686 or better, you could have a small-to-medium compile farm with /usr/portage/packages exported via NFS. >I think Gentoo shouldn't rule out providing some support and flexibility >for any need that a significant amount of its userbase is interested in. >And, I know there are a significant number of devs already who >have at least some interest in enterprise support do to conversations >I've had via IRC. > >I definitly don't expect that the entire gentoo community or dev base >should go substantially out of their way or change organizational structure >to facilitate enterprise capabilities. Just allow some startup biz that >eventually comes along to be able to provide a backported snapshot >based tree for their own customers. > > I think you underestimate the difficulty of running a successful "startup biz". I don't think Ubuntu would have gotten where they are if the founder hadn't been rich to start with. >>>Also I find it amusing when people say that Gentoo exists for the >>>users. I think that is wrong. Gentoo exists for the *developers*. >>>It's our playground, and it's the reason we use a live tree rather >>>than switching to an actually sane approach. The users are cool >>>because they point out bugs, help solve problems on bugzilla, suggest >>>enhancements, provide patches, and notify us of package updates. >>>Sometimes they become developers. But the truth is that Gentoo sees >>>improvement and maintenance in the areas that appeal to the >>>developers. And that is why Gentoo exists for the developers first, >>>the users second. >>> >>> >>> > >Thats part of the reason that I'm a developer - because I like interacting >with the dev community here. But, the users have their own role and >the above could be taken the wrong way. > > Well ... as a user, I certainly didn't take it the wrong way. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
