On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 06:29:03PM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > Quite frankly, I think that with a properly run community, there should > be no need for a "Developer Relations" project, since it should be > mostly self-policing.
With 300+ people, i severely doubt self policing would work. I assume you were mostly thinking about conflict resolution when you wrote this, but there are other things like - recruitment - retirement of developers that - quit - go AWOL etc. In an ideal world with a self-policing community this could work out, however i rather tend to assume one of these things happen in the real world: - People get recruited by anyone in whatever way and have no idea about our policies, breaking the tree in their first commit. - Developers retire and no one removes their access due to lack of procedure - Devs go AWOL, no one notices. If someone notices, perhaps he starts volunteering doing this kind of clean-up work, and technically a new devrel project emerges. > Beyond that, the leadership should have the power > and the ability to take care of problems in a timely manner without the > need for droves of bureaucratic process. The process (http://dev.gentoo.org/~plasmaroo/policy.xml) is reorganized and should fulfill both your concern for a timely manner and is much less bureaucratic. Also, there's a lot of stuff happening other than the conflict resolution stuff with regard to ombudsman and often kloeri resolving things - you don't read that on the news, but i'm not sure if council members should spend a lot of their time to resolve silly conflicts between devs, they're elected make decisions, not obsolete devrel. ;-) Btw, the new policy also includes the possibility of refering a decision to the council in certain cases, see "Resolution and Appeal". > I'm sure nearly every member > of devrel would agree that they would love to see a Gentoo where devrel > simply wasn't needed. I assume you're only refering to conflict resolution again, and i agree it would be great. I just don't think this is ever going to happen as long there are more than 50 developers. cheers, Wernfried -- Wernfried Haas (amne) - amne at gentoo dot org Gentoo Forums: http://forums.gentoo.org IRC: #gentoo-forums on freenode - email: forum-mods at gentoo dot org
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