On Fri, 2012-12-21 at 10:46 +0000, Markos Chandras wrote: > On 21 December 2012 08:49, Brian Dolbec <dol...@gentoo.org> wrote: > > On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 21:30 -0800, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > >> I have several suggestions how we can improve things: > >> > >> 1. 3 months is too short period anyway. > >> > >> 2. Think through what the goals are. We do not want to retire as many > >> people as possible. We do not want to frustrate people who do contribute > >> to Gentoo. We do not want to discourage people who consider becoming new > >> developers. At least I don't. > >> > >> 3. I think what's important is to keep packages maintained. I consider > >> maintainership to be a duty, not a privilege. If someone is listed in > >> metadata.xml, but is not really maintaining the package, that creates a > >> formal illusion that the package is maintained, and may prevent other > >> people from stepping up and taking maintenance of that package. > >> > >> 4. I suggest that we focus on the above: keeping packages maintained. > >> Taking packages out of hands of inactive/overworked maintainers is good. > >> They can always become _more_ active, which is easier if they retain cvs > >> access. If they make a single commit every 3-6 months, I'm fine with > >> that as long as things are maintained properly. > >> > >> 5. Remember that cvs/bugzilla activity is not the only way of > >> contributing. It's probably most tanglible and very needed, but let's > >> not reduce real people and their real world situations, and their effort > >> to contribute to just dates and numbers. > >> > >> Paweł > >> > >> > > > > +1 > > > > Even though I am a relatively new developer, I too got an email > > stating my inactivity (not from undertakers@). My main purpose for > > becoming a dev was not for ebuild work, but more for coding. Three > > months is way too short to be making that type of list. > > > > For all those young devs out there still in college/university. You > > will find that time accelerates as you age. 3 months may seem a long > > time for you now, but give it another 5-10 years and you'll discover > > that 3 months can go by quite quickly. Especially with a family (wife, > > kids, pets) and a full time job. > > > > -- > > Brian Dolbec <dol...@gentoo.org> > > Nobody said the policy is correct. I face the same problems so the > policy might not be appropriate anymore. However, I totally disagree > with > the way Doug started this thread. Calling us "brain dead" ? No sorry, > I am not willing to discuss anything about this policy nor willing to > change it if someone can't behave properly and ask us nicely to > discuss the problem. We never *insulted* or *threated* anyone with > retirement, we are extremely polite and we just ask for status updates > in order to clean up metadata, reassign bugs and look for new > maintainers of unattended packages. Nobody ever complained in the > past, and all of them were willing to drop themselves from metadata > without problems. But I never expected this attitude just for asking > "hey are you there? do you still want to maintain all these packages? > any ETA on coming back". Seriously... >
Ah, yes. Sorry, I was replying to Pawel's suggestions. I should have deleted Doug's text from the above as I've done now. I in no way meant it as I was insulted/threatened by the email I got. And Doug's original comments were harsh. -- Brian Dolbec <dol...@gentoo.org>
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