Markos, Markos Chandras wrote: > I totally disagree with the way Doug started this thread.
That's of course completely fair, but try to look beyond that, and let's focus on how we can make things better for everyone. > Calling us "brain dead" ? Please read email even more carefully, especially when you read something that makes you upset. I think you completely misunderstood what Doug wrote. He wrote: "I'm curious who had the brain dead idea to retire Gentoo developers that are still interested in the distro" So as I mentioned in a previous email that I wrote, *you* aren't being attacked here. "brain dead" is of course strong wording, but note that it refers to the idea and *not* to anyone who is implementing the idea. I guess the idea is really really old by now. > No sorry, I am not willing to discuss anything about this policy > nor willing to change it That's not very helpful. I had expected much more from you, since you are a strong contributor to Gentoo since a long time. > if someone can't behave properly and ask us nicely to discuss the > problem. As I wrote, I think Doug's email was nice enough. He included his attitude as background for an inquiry. It should be pretty easy to recognize which is which, and for the community to work together on making things better for everyone, with focus on the inquiry. Refusing to discuss and change for any reason seems pretty weird to me. Basically you are saying that communication can only happen on your own terms, instead of trying to always adjust communication to your party. Guess what happens if both parties do that. > We never *insulted* or *threated* anyone with retirement Cool! My impression of the process was the exact opposite. I don't have experience from it of course, but the way it was described it was certainly a big part of me not being able to grow motivation to work through the Gentoo recruitment process. > I never expected this attitude just for asking "hey are you there? > do you still want to maintain all these packages? any ETA on coming > back". Seriously... Maybe you can understand that there is a disconnect between what people who have no experience from what you do and what you actually do? That was certainly the case for me, and maybe also for Doug. The documentation that I once read was certainly much more aggressive than what you and others describe, and it's easy to assume that documentation is correct. :) //Peter
