On Monday 30 June 2003 07:42 pm, Owen Gunden wrote: > On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 03:58:11PM -0700, Zack Gilburd wrote: > > Yes, they would. They would ask you why on earth is it so hard to use > > and why can't I open XYZ.doc that my friend sent me? It works just fine > > for [him|her]! > > When was the last time you used office software in Linux?
Insert an image into a .doc. Try to open that .doc with OpenOffice. Open and shut case. > > I've tried getting my father to use Linux. The drawbacks and the reason > > why he went back to Windows was because of compatibility with other > > computers. He's a business man, he needs to receive docs, etc on a > > regular basis. > > Give another example, beyond .docs, because linux has that covered. See above, no we do not have it covered. > > What a terrible assumption. A well thought out and planned attack can be > > executed and completed sucessfully against Linux than it can Windows. > > I'll believe it when I see it. Where's your evidence that Linux is even > remotely as vulnerable as Windows? When was the last time that the TSC could control a Windows desktop merely by talking to it? Think about the bomb that was dropped on OpenSSH and the CRC exploit. > > Windows XP has a form of their terminal services client/server out of the > > box. How easy would it be to instruct your grandmother on how to install, > > configure, and run a VNC server? It's just easier with Windows in that > > aspect. > > ??? Why would she need to do that? ssh works "out of the box", with far > fewer security problems then terminal services. VNC what?? <sarcasm> I wasn't aware the Linux kernel came with SSH. </sarcasm> Linux is a kernel, not an operating system. > > And if you think I am a Windows supporter or troll, tell that to my 4 > > Gentoo boxes. > > I think you're giving yourself too much credit for knowing how to run a > linux box. It's not that hard, 13 year old kids do it, and some are > probably better than you at it. I am 15. Do you run SELinux? I have a Linux+ certification and am en route to receiving a RHCE. I think I deserve a little credit. > > There is a huge difference between being a Linux zealot, as you are, and > > being an open minded individual, thus seeing the situation as a whole. > > You've got this about as backwards as you can. I can't stand it when > people who have been running windows for 10 years say that it's easier to > use "by nature". Open up /your/ eyes, man. If you were open-minded about > the situation you'd give linux as much learning time as you've given > windows (and encourage others around you to do so as well). I wouldn't touch Windows with a *barge* FFS. I would give Linux as much learning time? I first started messing with Linux at age 7 when I obtained a boxed set of Slackware 7.1. I have been using solely Linux for the passed 8 months. Please do not assume that I do not know Linux. -- Zack Gilburd http://tehunlose.com GnuPG Key ID: A79A45668240AB6C
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