On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Neil Bothwick <n...@digimed.co.uk> wrote: > On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:37:14 -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> >> No, by "you know what needs to be done" I mean: code. Contribute. >> >> Become a developer. Make shit happens the way you think it should >> >> happen. >> > >> > You're happy to run an important system service coded by someone with >> > less experience than their dislike of the way things are going. >> >> Someone with "less experience"? As I said before, Kay has been working >> in udev for more than eight years. I think he's entitle to receive the >> acknowledge of his experience. > > Yet you are suggesting that others code the solutions.
No, I am suggesting that, if something in the direction of usev/Gentoo/Linux bother someone, that someone has to code up something in the direction s/he would like things to go, or accept what the developers decide. > I'm sorry, but > being pissed off with the current trend in udev is not sufficient > qualification to write a replacement. I agree. I am not "pissed off" by any of the developments in Linux in general and Gentoo in particular in the last few years: on the contrary, I am quite happy with them. >> > Trust me, you would want to run a udev that contained any code >> > written by me! >> >> No offense man, but I don't know you enough so I "would want to run a >> udev that contained any code written by" you. > > Then why have you repeatedly suggested that I and others in these threads > "code it yourself". Because nobody else is going to do it for you or them. That's the point. Either convince the developers to code the stuff to work like you want, or do it youtself. And if you do it yourself, don't necessarily expect the rest of the world will run to use your code. > The solution is not to spit the dummy and write a poorly coded fork, > discarding years of experience. The solution is rational debate so that > those who can and do write the code can do a better job. Mmmh. Not exactly. The "rational debate" happens in the Open Source conferences, developer mailing lists and IRC. The proposed changes are not a sudden outbreak of craziness by one or more developers: is the result of the "rational debate" among them, and of the code they produce. If you don't write code, you can "rational debate" as much as you want, but as long as the ones writing the code are not involved, it's not very useful. And even if the developers are involved, be ready for them to maybe disagree with you. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
