Am 30.09.2013 01:27, schrieb Dale: > Tanstaafl wrote: >> On 2013-09-29 5:35 PM, Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Tanstaafl wrote: >>>> Ok, but... everything I've read and personal experience over the years >>>> shows that space required for /usr should not change much, especially >>>> constantly grow over time (like requirements for /home can and will)- >>>> it may fluctuate (increase, decrease) *a little* over time, but it >>>> definitely should not grow substantially, so, if you had to resize it, >>>> most likely it is because you simply didn't allocate enough room to >>>> start with. >>> So my experience doesn't matter any then? >> Dale, that is NOT what I said, and nothing I am saying is intended to >> be offensive. >> >>> My /usr does vary and sometimes varies quite a bit. >> The question you should be asking yourself then, is WHY? > To me, it doesn't matter why it varies, it just does. After each > update, I check to see what the partitions look like. The biggest > change was going from KDE3 to KDE4. That seemed to make things grow a > good bit. Other things I install/uninstall seem to change things too. > >>> That is why I had to resize the thing. Saying that I didn't make it >>> large enough to begin with isn't the point. >> It is precisely the point... >> >> The fact is, there is nothing in there that *should* vary much (once >> your system is fully installed) - unless you are using it in some >> non-standard way, and/or not occasionally cleaning out /usr/src (as >> Alan pointed out)... and if either of those is the case, then as I >> said, it is your own fault that you needed to resize it. >> >> Don't you see how contradictory it is to say that you will change from >> gentoo to distro-x because gentoo has made a change that requires you >> to either merge /usr into / or use an 'init thingy', when distro-x, >> that you say you will change to, USES AN INIT THINGY? Doesn't that >> sound irrational to you? > No, it doesn't. On Gentoo, I HAVE to make the thing but don't know how > to fix it if it breaks. On other distros, I don't have to make the > thing. If it fails, at worst, I can reinstall in much less time than I > would spend trying to fix the silly thing. Since I don't know how to > fix one and can't boot to get help, then the computer may as well be a > screen door on a submarine. As I posted before, if something breaks and > I can't fix it, I replace it with something else that works. That could > be why /usr varies so much too. > >> What would be logical and rational would be to either: >> >> a) learn how to use an init thingy (which from some more reading I've >> been doing, doesn't look quite as bad as it seemed initially), or >> >> b) determine what is a sane size for /usr, make / an appropriate size >> to subsume it, and merge it into /. >> >> Now, if you don't have enough room in / to merge it, then obviously it >> will be more painful, but once it is done, you never have to worry >> about it again - and no init thingy. > Actually, history proves that wrong too. I started using LVM because I > got tired of having to rearrange my partitions and resize things. That > was the whole reason I switched to LVM when I did. Ask anyone on this > list that has been here long ehough. I have had to move things around > LOTS of times because things grow including /usr and /var. /home is a > different and unrelated thing. Funny thing is, I did it several times > and never even posted about it. > >>> When people use LVM, the reason they use it is so that we can resize >>> things when needed. >> Yes, and I use LVM - but again, this is only important for dirs/mnt >> points that have the potential to consume more and more disk space... >> that potential is simply not there for (a properly configured and >> maintained) /usr... > See above. > >>> And what is rational for you, is not rational to me. Since you can >>> dismiss mine, I can dismiss yours too. Funny how that works huh? >> Yep... and you can also dismiss my claim that jumping off that 1,000' >> cliff won't result in you going splat, but it doesn't change the fact >> that if you jump off of it, you WILL go splat. I just wouldn't get the >> chance to say I told you so. >> >> > And what you are saying is not changing anything either. I don't want > to mess with the init thingy. If I do, first time it fails and a > solution isn't obvious, time to move on to something else. I like my 16 > year old washing machine and I have repaired things on it a few times. > If it breaks and I can't fix it, time for a new washing machine. Most > likely, a different brand and model too. > > Dale > > :-) :-) >
500gb harddisks are extremely cheap. 150gb for / with usr and you will be fine for ages. Why are you acting like this is a problem?
