On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Alec Ten Harmsel <a...@alectenharmsel.com> wrote: > Mark David Dumlao wrote: >> The code is out there. Freely available. Both systemd and sysvinit. >> If you wanted to measure both, you could, literally, in the time it >> took since you first posted in this thread till now you could have >> measured several times and left mean comments about whichever >> system you hated the most. > > Unfortunately, the systemd guys keep screaming that systemd is faster, > and burden of proof is on the party that's claiming something. It's not > James'/Volker's responsibility to prove that systemd isn't faster. >
I think Mark fully appreciates that if he wants to change your mind he's going to have to work hard to do it. I just don't think he really cares. The argument about whether systemd is better/worse than sysvinit was a debate back in 2012-2013. Just about anybody actually contributing to distros has moved on since then. That doesn't mean that there is 100% agreement on anything, just that at this point it seems unlikely that things are going to change much either way on that front. A few distros are likely to avoid systemd, and the vast majority are in the process of adopting it. With Gentoo you can run whatever you want for PID 1, just as you can use whatever bootloader, kernel, syslog, etc you want. Not all the init options have equal support - upstart isn't even in the tree and few packages supply scripts for runit. But, nobody is going to get in anybody's way if they want to introduce upstart, etc. The fact is among those actually contributing to projects like openrc, udev, eudev, and systemd everybody tends to get along just fine. There is plenty of interest in finding common ground and collaborating so that anybody switching from one to another can do so easily, and so that these projects don't diverge where it isn't intended. It seems like the heaviest fighting seems to involve folks who don't contribute to any of these. -- Rich
