Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 11:15 PM Grant Edwards
> <grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> For example, if one
>> of the links is down, Ubuntu is really fond of waiting a couple
>> mintues for it to come up before it finishes booting. [If it doesn't
>> wait for all the network interfaces, how is it going to do all that
>> cloudy crap nobody really wants?]
> I think the intent is to prevent dependency issues, though IMO that
> would be better avoided by just setting dependencies on the systemd
> units.  However, many distros try to abstract systemd behind a wall of
> distro configuration in part because they wanted to the original
> transition to systemd to be seamless.
>
> I have a bunch of ubuntu hosts that have dual NICs and they just love
> to take forever to boot.  This is despite having only one entry in
> /etc/netplan and having it have "optional: true" set.  networkctl
> shows one interface as "configuring" even after the system is up for
> days.
>
> Hmm, might even be a systemd-networkd bug.  I see ubuntu created
> /run/systemd/network/10-netplan-alleths.network and it contains
> "RequiredForOnline=no".
>
> Oh well, I rarely reboot so it just hasn't been on the top of my list
> of things to fix.
>
> Honestly, I'd prefer if it just let me configure networkd directly.
> I'm sure there is some way to do that, but I feel like if I do then
> I'll have to read the release notes every time there is a new release
> to make sure it isn't going to break it.  If you're going to run a
> distro like Ubuntu I've found it is generally best to just figure out
> the "Ubuntu Way" and do it their way.  If that isn't adequate, the
> easier solution is to just use a more appropriate distro.
>


Funny you say that last part.  That's just what I did.  I was fine with
Ubuntu until the network stopped working for no reason.  I certainly
changed nothing.  When I couldn't figure it out, it made me think about
using Gentoo instead.  It went from adequate to needing something else. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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