Daniel Frey <djqf...@gmail.com> writes:

> Is it just me or is wayland nowhere near primetime?
>
> I did a switchover to systemd/wayland some time ago and it seemed to solve 
> some
> problems I had.
>
> The problem is it also came with so many more issues than it fixed:
>
> 1. Logins don't work reliably. I use KDE/SDDM and when logging in it appears 
> to
> start on a new VT and sometime it doesn't start. Or it will start the new VT
> and fail to switch to it, leaving a text console and a blinking cursor. This
> didn't happen when using X11.

hmm, please check journalctl / the wayland session log.  I've never seen
that and it more likely than not indicates KWin or SDDM crashing.

> 2. Sometimes video hardware acceleration just doesn't work. Now I do have a
> discrete nVidia card with the proprietary driver, but I switched to nouveau 
> and
> it didn't work either. Again, not an issue in X11.
>
> I have a nVidia RTX 3070 Ti.

I'd expect the proprietary driver to work better.  what kind of hardware
acceleration do you mean however?  3D acceleration always worked for me
but I don't recall if I tried video acceleration

> 3. I sleep/resume a lot, wayland seems to be quite buggy on resume. As in, the
> other three issues listed here are far more likely to occur after a
> sleep/resume, but they do happen even after rebooting and being on the PC most
> of the day.

this is IIRC a bug in nvidia drivers, I've had it happen on my desktop
PC (1050Ti), but never on my AMDGPU desktop or Intel laptop.

> 4. This is the big one, the panel in KDE hangs intermittently. The clock will
> freeze and the entire panel is unresponsive (but weirdly enough, KDE doesn't
> realize it's not responding.) I've tried killing and restarting the process 
> and
> that doesn't always fix it either as it becomes disconnected with any open
> processes and it's not possible to resolve. Either have to logout or reboot.

'plasmashell --replace' always fixed this on my nvidia machine.  I've
never been able to reproduce it off of it.  decently sure that's
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=469016 though (check, please, and
let the devs know if it isn't)

> I've switched back to X11 for now and have been using it for over a week. I
> managed to figure out how to set up multimonitor for now (both on the KDE
> desktop and in SDDM) and I haven't had any of these issues. For the record, I
> typically use the computer a few times a day during the week and sleep/resume,
> and longer on weekends.
>
> After much googling and experimenting, I can't seem to make these issues go
> away... which got me wondering if someone else has experienced any of these.
>
> I have done hardware tests (load testing, RAM tests, etc) - all are clear.

it is unlikely to be a hw fault - nvidia drivers are quite bad,
especially at wayland, since nvidia mostly cares about compute on linux.

on nvidia hw, using X is often the better choice unfortunately.

hope that helps, have a lovely day.
-- 
Arsen Arsenović

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