Dear Federico and Magnus, Thank you for your links and further help.
Perhaps WMF is not that obsessed with dwell time of a surfer on a webpage, as are commercial websites and so Google Analytics with its concept of bounce: the user request of another webpage within a sec, an immediate rejection of the webpage. Or perhaps this cannot be logged server-side. Best regards, hansmuller https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Hansmuller Op Ma, 18 januari, 2016 9:49 pm schreef Magnus Manske: > OK, I am not sure I understand the issue correctly, so I'll just throw > out some notes: > > * I do not count the pageviews. They are counted by the Wikimedia > Foundation, I just use them as-is. > > > * The official definition of page views seems to be at > https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Pageviews > > > * AFAIK, the data before 2015-12 used only desktop views; the new one > uses also mobile, but removes "views" by bots and crawlers. > > * Not sure what the "bounce" feature is; the preview thing in the mobile > app? Or the MediaViewer? (I believe page views count neither of those) > > Finally, a "view" in the baglama2 tool means an image was included on a > page that a human loaded in his/her browser. I have no data if that image > was actually on the screen ("below the fold", no scrolling), but since > "important" images in an article tend to be near the top, I just count > the page view. > > Hope that helps, > Magnus > > > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 2:19 PM Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemow...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >> Hans Muller, 18/01/2016 14:52: >> >>> As far as i can see, the API does not answer the bounce question. >>> >> >> The API talks of pageviews >> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/pageviews_API ; your question is >> IMHO the wrong one, i.e. "how can we estimate how many pageviews are >> real?". The real question is "how many times are the files actually >> seen?". >> >> To answer the real question, you have to use mediacounts instead: >> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Data/Mediacounts >> You can see an example at >> http://wiki.wikimedia.it/wiki/File:2015-10-beic-counts.ods >> The results are very similar to what baglama yields, for this specific >> case (BEIC media). >> >> Nemo >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Glamtools mailing list >> Glamtools@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glamtools >> >> > _______________________________________________ Glamtools mailing list Glamtools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glamtools
